$300-350 Gaming System

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

Approximate Purchase Date: No specific dates yet

Budget Range: $300-350(as of today June 20, 2015 or June 19 if you're from USA)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Browsing, Rendering

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: The whole system. I believe i can still use the current ram im using Gskill Ripjaws X F3-10666-CL7D- 4gb (2x2) and just add another 4gb, my Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM and Cooler Master Blizzard T2 Mini

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: We only have tipidpc.com here in the PH.

Location: Quezon City, Philippines

Parts Preferences: Intel over AMD (coz im not familliar with AMD but it could also be AMD just enlighten me WHY, please)

Overclocking:Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1360x768 (but also planning to buy a better one)

Additional Comments: You can also just suggest a build that is based in US and ill just be the one who'll look up for the price here in the PH.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My system is kinda outdated and i think my PCI-e slot is not working, also my Onboard GPU port is kind of failing as well (distorted colors) I do have the i3-530 and a DH55TC Mobo so yes it is outdated.

i7Baby · Jun 20, 2015

You should also have -

PC Express
PC Worx
Dynaquest PC Sales
Wired Systems
VillMan Computers - http://www.villman.com/

http://www.tipidpc.com/ is just forums and wanted to buy and sell

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

Build to Play Wither 3 1080p at Medium 35Fps and all new games on similar or higher quality.
Reuse your old HDD, Case sell old rams.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($69.95 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus A88XM-A Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($53.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($79.90 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $287.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-20 02:52 EDT-0400

Intel version

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($108.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($79.90 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $315.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-20 02:58 EDT-0400

i7Baby · Jun 20, 2015

Or try -

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($123.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus A88X-PRO ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($91.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Apotop 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $321.94

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

i7Baby :

AMD A10-7850K is simply not worth its price have lower FPS compared to X4 860K + R7 250

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

i7Baby :

Yes we do have, but i simply just included tipidpc since you can see all of those names and their pricelists there.

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

DeathRabit :

Thank you for your input sir, but istill don't know the difference of having Intel > AMD or vice versa, i know this is not the right thread to ask this. Ill just go ahead a look at it first.

So my old ram cannot be reused on to this system? Or is it because the mobo you suggested only has 2 ram slots and i need to have at least 8gb?

EDIT: So the mobo has 4 slots but the ram that you are suggesting is a 2133, Now i get it.

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

rebirthxken :

AMD is cheaper + Can be OC with good cooler and have similar performance in rendering and new games to i3.
If you still in range of your budget you can try go for R9 270, or GTX 960.
You can also add SSD

I also use this Asus mobo and OC CPU on it some info about this below, I uses older CPU * he support only 1866Mh ram
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/MKD8TW
And one more thing mobo for AMD can require bios upgrade before can recognised X4 860k, ask seller before buying if this revision supports X4 860k out form box or ask him to update bios on mobo

You can also update bios for yourself but need first some any other FM2 cpu to install on mobo to boot and update bios.

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

DeathRabit :

But when it comes to performance and heating is it the same? I heard AMD still has more heating and drivers issues than intel.

And also, im having a hard time looking for Antec 450W, is there any alternatives for this? Too bad the cheapest PC Part seller here in the philippines no longer has the AMD CPU, i think ill go for the Intel but will also search other shops as well.

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

About PSU take one from Tier 1,2 or 3 * 1 is best quality 3 is lower but still ok
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

About AMD you can also look for X4 750 or X4 760k if price will be low.
and this amd CPUs support only up to 1866Mhz ram no need for 2133.

About intel take cheapest i3- 4 gen non S edition and you will be ok,
for lintel also you need only 1600Mhz ram if 1866 is cheaper take it.

Also compare prices GTX 750 ti vs R7 260x * take cheaper they have similar performance
and check maybe you can find some discount for R9 270.

And link PC specification before you buy I double check everything.

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

Thank you DeathRabbit, will be looking for that now.

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

Other than Powercolor for the GPU, is Sapphire Good?

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.70GHz (Dual Core) Haswell Refresh Processor - $111.05
Mobo: Asus H81M-D PLUS - $61.14
Ram: Gskill RipjawsX 8GB Dual 1866 CL9 (F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL) - $68.92
GPU: Palit Geforce GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual 2GB GDDR5 - $145.63
PSU: Corsair VS450w - $35.57
Total: $422.33

So here it is, and yes its expensive here in the Philippines and your choices are a bit of limited. Prices are converted from PH Peso to US Dollars.

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

rebirthxken :

Yes Sapphire is even better

rebirthxken :

PSU is ok with exception poor quality capacitors * they not work well in high ambient temps. And PSU can failure before warranty ends. Link some other choices.
GPU any other choices maybe older AMD 7850 / 7870 ?
Try find cheaper rams, any other cheaper mobos to chose ? - link them maybe we find something cheaper with decent quality.

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

For the PSU, here are some of the 300-450w PSU's : http://dynaquestpc.com/product-category/components/power-supply-psu/power-supply-psu-300w-450w/

As for the GPU, Sapphire R7 260x is for $127.62.
Here's the link for AMD GPU's pricing range from $45~$130
http://dynaquestpc.com/product-category/components/video-card-vga-graphics/radeon-graphic-video-card/?min_price=1450&max_price=6218

Here is for the Nvidia:
http://dynaquestpc.com/product-category/components/video-card-vga-graphics/nvidia-graphic-video-card/?min_price=1390&max_price=6061

As for the Mobo all of the available alternatives has almost the same price same with the Ram. I just hope that it gets cheaper by the time i have my money. Thank you again DeathRabit

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

I might be giving you a hard time thinking of other alternatives. Haha sorry for that. But with the build i provided you the only thing that you're not comfortable of is with the PSU right?

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

What is your budget in local currency ?
I see some cheap FX CPUs

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

My budget was 16k max but the proposed specs a while go reached 19k. So yeah, make it 16-19k

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

Hm... I finish build at 19.6K * try ask about discount in shop * you buying entire PC here

Evry part is good quality, and PSU is tier 2 * very good

http://dynaquestpc.com/product/seasonic-s12ii-520w-80plus-bronze/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/sapphire-r7-260x-oc-version-2gb-ddr5-128bit/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/intel-core-i3-4160-3-60ghz-dual-core-haswell-refresh-processor/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/asrock-b85m-hds/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/gskill-ripjaws-x-8gb-4gbx2-cl9/

rebirthxken · Jun 20, 2015

Thank you very very much DeathRabit. Yes i checked the net and they do give out discounts if you're going to buy a complete system with them. And for your info, that rounds up to $435.77 hahaha. I realized how much cheaper it is to build CPU's in the states T_T

Again, thank you very much!

DeathRabit · Jun 20, 2015

I mange make alternative with price 15.980 :
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/seasonic-s12ii-520w-80plus-bronze/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/amd-kaveri-a10-7700k-3-40-3-80ghz-4-core-processor/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/gskill-ripjawsx-8gb-dual-ddr3-2133-cl9-f3-2133c9d-8gxl/
http://dynaquestpc.com/product/asus-a88xm-a/

You can run on this GTA 5 on low detail and even Witcher 3 but low resolution and avg 20-23 Fps

rebirthxken · Jun 21, 2015

Is that run by APU? Are APU's that dependable? Not like having an integrated/onboard vid card for Intel?

rebirthxken · Jun 21, 2015

I saw a bundle of the AMD A10-Kaveri-7700k + Gigabyte GA.G1.Sniper, its 900PHP more expensive. Would that be a better choice? Is the price difference worth considering to choose the bundle instead?

Since i take a look at the comparison of the two boards, it seems that Gigabyte has more features than the Asus. And also i believe Gigabyte is the leading go-to board when it comes to AMD system right? As much as i wanted to choose Asus since i love their designs and overall performance it seems getting the Gigabyte Sniper board is more practical, don't you think?

DeathRabit · Jun 21, 2015

Asus company have one from best quality mobo, but this gigabyte is from performance level mobos and will be better for overclock your CPU in future when you buy better CPU cooler compared to asus-a88xm-a ( lack of heat-sink on VRM section on this budget mobo)

Mobo review:
http://www.overclockers.com/gigabyte-g1-sniper-a88x-motherboard-review-1/

Simply if you chose Gigabyte in future you can Overclock your CPU higher and also you will have better Audio quality

rebirthxken · Jun 21, 2015

Okay, thank you for that DeathRabit, so i guess ill stick with the the Gigabyte now, as much as i wanted to have Asus part

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