Best bang for the buck video card

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Hello I have an older Dell Optiplex 780MT. Intel core 2 Quad 3.0 GHz.
I want to get the best used video card I can for $15-$20 on eBay. I am not a gamer and I want to disable on-board video so that it doesn't use my ram and I want to get my windows experience index up. I am trying to see how fast I can make this computer for very little money. I plan to add an SSD even though it will only use SATA II.

On eBay I found a NVIDIA Quadro FX 580 512MB for $16.
Does this look like a good card/deal?
Can anyone suggest a better card I can find on eBay for $20 or less?
This tower cannot handle double height cards or really long cards.
This one uses max 40 watts and as I am not a gamer I don't want a higher energy use than that.
Thank you for your help. Have a nice day.
 

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Hello BrentMc,

I do not recommend spending money on second hand PC components, no matter low the cost is.

So consider this quality low profile card:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 5450 512MB Video Card ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $19.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-24 13:25 EDT-0400

- At max uses only 19W.
- Comes with 2 year warranty.
- Would fit nicely into the Dell Optiplex 780MT.
- This card requires a 300W PSU that can deliver 22Amps on its +12V rail.
- The Dell Optiplex 780MT comes with 305W PSU with 88% efficacy that can deliver 22.3Amps on its +12V rail.
- Costs $19.99, after deducting the $10 "In-mail-rebates"

Overall, a pretty good deal that meets or even surpasses your expectations.

Update:

You never heard of "Micro Center". May be because you're used to buying readily available PCs like Dell. It's popular among people who buy individual parts and build PCs on their own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Center

Update #2:

This card is good enough to play 1080p videos/movies.

If you're looking for a good monitor that's gentle on your eyes. Consider this amazing 27 Inch, VA Panel, Full HD, 1080p, Flicker Free (ideal for longer movie watching/gaming, with reduced eye fatigue), pretty good color reproduction:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Monitor: BenQ GW2760HS 60Hz 27.0" Monitor ($239.99 @ B&H)
Total: $239.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-26 05:50 EDT-0400
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Flicker-free Backlight for Visual Pleasure:

The Flicker-free technology eliminates flickering at all brightness levels and effectively reducing eye fatigue. Conventional LCD screens flicks 200 times per second. Your eyes may not see flickers, but can certainly feel them. Free your eyes from flickers by switching to Flicker-free Monitors and let your eyes do less work.

Reading Mode for an Optimized Reading Experience:

For a more comfortable reading experience, BenQ has adjusted the monitor’s color temperature, brightness, contrast ratio and sharpness to create the all new Reading Mode which simulates the look of printed paper to help reduce the eye discomfort typically caused by prolonged and focused use of eyes on computer monitors.

Super Narrow Bezel for more Visual Pleasure

Improved Eco Mode for Higher Energy Efficiency
Power Consumption (On mode) - 27W (Base on Energy Star)
Power Consumption (Power saving mode) - <0.3W

3000: 1 Native Contrast Ratio and 20M:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio for Depth and Definition

Perfecting Your Audiovisual Enjoyment with Speakers [Yes, has built-in speakers]

HDMI Multimedia Interface

Color Shift-free Technology

Full features here: http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/GW2760HS/features/

Input Connector - D-Sub/ DVI/ HDMI/ Headphone jack/ Line-in

Full Tech Specs here: http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/GW2760HS/specifications/



BenQ GW2760HS Flicker Free Testing:

BenQ GW2760HS vs. BenQ GW2760HM 1080p display SHOOTOUT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CNOIbmUws0

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@MakoRuu - People like you're only good at taking childish digs at others opinions and passing laughable comments like "That guy Yeskay is probably paid to Advertise for Microcenter", rather providing any useful solutions :lol:.

The performance difference between GT440 1GB Vs HD 5450 is highly negligible or non-existent!.

GT440 has a TDP of 65W, needs a 400W PSU that can deliver 27Amps on its +12V rail.

HD 5450 has a TDP of 19W, needs only a 300W PSU that can deliver 22Amps on its +12V rail.

Your recommendation is a totally useless, as the "BrentMC" only has a 305W PSU with 88% efficacy that can deliver 22.3Amps on its +12V rail. So the HD 5450 naturally fits with his existing configuration, meets his requirements.

And here is the news to your ignorant mind, I'm from a different country.

Try to focus your energy on learning something useful and provide proper solution to others, rather than taking blind stupid unnecessary digs at fellow peers. For this is a tech forum, if you had forgotten.

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Update #3:

The reason why manufacturers suggest higher wattage (400W) than actual required wattage (300W) is because they assume that the consumer may use additional hard disk, add on cards, optical drives etc. apart for the already basic components like the usual 1 hdd/optical drive. Also there is a possibility of some using crap PSU. So they take all these things in to consideration and come up with 400W figure. I think your Dell Optiplex 780MT comes with usual basic components. So 305W should be enough to power up the entire rig along with the XFX 5450.

Full list of PSU requirement for all NVIDIA/AMD graphics cards by MSI:
https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/printer/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards

Update #4:

I suggested you XFX 5450 because you were strictly sticking to $20 mark. I would have easily suggested you the ASUS GeForce 210 1GB 64-bit for $30, which you've selected right now.

The GT 210 only needs a 300W PSU that can deliver 18Amps on its +12V, which is well within the capabilities of your present 305W PSU. GT 210 consumes at max 31W.

Yes, you can very well get that card.

Cheers!
 

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Wow thanks for looking that up. Have you had used parts ruin your system? I'm fine taking my chances and saving some money. I'm going to get some RAM used. Maybe I will buy the one you recommended. I have never heard of this store before. I like that it uses less wattage.



 

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I have been reading about eye strain from monitors and now I am thinking of getting a big 27"+ monitor. I watch video online and would like it 1080p when available. Will this card be good enough?
 

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That guy Yeskay is probably paid to Advertise for Microcenter.

That HD 5450 is very old. Yes, it is power efficient and very inexpensive. But that's because it's so old.

Frankly I'd go with the GT 440. You can find them for $20 on eBay. I used to have one, and it was a beast.

They'll play 1080p video and even some newer video games if you ever decide you want to try a little casual gaming.
 

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Am I looking at the wrong card? The manufacturers site says minimum 400 watt PS. Mine is only 305.
http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xfx-one-r-series/xfx-one-r-series-standard-edition-on-xfx1-std2

 

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Mako Ruu answered your question. a GT 440 is good for your purposes. You could get an extremely old AMD card like the HD 2400, but if you buy something that old off ebay you're running a lot of risks.

Also you really can't expect a lot of options if you want to pay $20 for a video card.
 

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The GT 440 needs a 400W PSU. I am not a gamer, I just want to offload the work from the onboard video. I am looking for a cheap older low wattage video card.
 

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The GT 440 has a TDP of 64 watts and a recommended power supply of 300w.

This is to cover other parts of the PC such as the CPU, the hard drives, the optical drive, et cetera.

I merely suggested it to allow you some head room for future use.

Thankfully Newegg uses a lot of third party retailers and offers many older low profile cards.

Here is a list of them sorted from lowest to highest.

http://www.newegg.com/Desktop-Graphics-Cards/SubCategory/ID-48?Order=PRICE

The Radeon HD 3450 coming in at $12 and offering a roomy 256 MBs of memory sounds like what you need.

 

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As for the ATI Radeon HD 3450 I see it says 300W or better PS, but I couldn't find power use. The description says it has HDMI, but the photo shows DVI and S-Video. VGA would be nice, but I think I HDMI and DVI are more important to me. Thank you for your help.
 

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The PCIe lane only uses a maximum of 75 watts.

The Radeon HD 3450 has a tdp of 25 watts.

For the same price the GeForce 9300 GE offers DVI-I.

Or for $18 the ATI Rage XL offers a VGA port, though it has less video memory.
 

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I took another look at that XFX Radeon HD 5450 512MB that yeskay recommended. It's low wattage, has HDMI, DVI, and VGA. I figured out why I thought it needed a 400W PSU. IF you follow the links at the link he gave me to pcpartpicker they lead to different models.
 

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I am planning on adding an SSD and a USB 3.0 PCI card I don't think they take to much energy.

 

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I'm sorry. I decided maybe I should spend a little more after I saw how hard it would be to find a good one for $20. Thanks for all your help.

 

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A guy at the Dell forum said I shouldn't get that card, so I cancelled it.
Here is what he said:
That one does NOT fit in MOST dell models because the heatsink is too thick.

The slot is VERY NARROW. If you have a Mini Tower it might fit.

Also Geforce 210 cards tend to not work at all and they are old technology soon to be End of life.

Anything less than Geforce 610 would be considered obsolete.

The 100 200 300 400 series are End of life April 2016.


Nvidia has warned that all driver package releases following Release 340, starting with Release 343, will drop support for the company's DirectX 10-exclusive GPU families in both the consumer and professional product lines. As a result, owners of said cards will be stuck on an outdated driver branch until such a time as they see fit to splash out on a hardware upgrade.

Cards affected by the move include the GeForce 8 and 9 desktop GPU families, the GeForce 100, 200, 300 and 400 desktop GPU families, the GeForce 7, 8 and 9 laptop families and the GeForce 100, 200 and 300 laptop families. Professional users will also find a range of Quadro FX, Quadro CX, Quadro Plex and a single Tesla board on the end-of-life list.

Nvidia offically END OF LIFE END OF SUPPORT in April 2016.
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77224/en-us

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3473/~/eol-windows-driver-support-for-legacy-products
 

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Now I am looking at the EVGA GeForce GT 610 2048MB GDDR3, DVI, VGA and HDMI Graphics Card 1 or 2 GB for a few bucks more. They both require a minimum 300W PS and 16 amps of the 12 volt rail. Should I get a card that requires and minimum 300W when I have a 305W card? I think it would be nice to be over a bit like to have a card that requires a minimum 250WPS. It is hard to find a card that will not be end of life soon. It seems most of the newer cards are more powerful and need more power as a result. These cards are more than I wanted to pay, but I don't want to have a card with no driver updates soon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00847TPH0/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
 

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No kidding. I was just hoping to pick out a decent old video card to take the work off the on-board video and it keeps snowballing. As far as drivers, like the Dell guy mentioned, don't new operating systems usually have basic drivers for old video cards? At this point I could go for a $10 old card or a $50 new card if only I could quickly pick out a new one and just order it. I thought I had the winner yesterday.