What do you think about this build?(my first pc build im planning to get for 4k gaming 60FPS)

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

Hey guys!

So guys this is what I'm trying to get for my first pc build : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xtWWTW
What do you think? Will it handle 4K on 60fps? Also 1 more question about the fans I will have all those fans that you can see and I know that motherboard won't have that much fan connectors so is there any other way that you can buy to add in pc so you can have more fans connected some cables?I just need to wait for the money and incoming 4k IPS Gsync ROG PG27AQ monitor.

Phil923 · Jun 27, 2015

The build in general is very capable for 4k gaming at 60fps. However I would change a couple of things.

The first thing I would change is the CPU cooler, instead of getting the 212 evo and an overpriced tube of thermal paste, you should get a better CPU cooler and use the included paste, it will give you much better cooling for your money.

The second thing I would change is your motherboard, something like the ASRock Extreme6 will be just as good and costs about $40 less.

For Storage, I changed it to a 1tb Samsung 850 pro which is one of the fastest SSDs at the moment and faster than the corsair one.

I also changed the case to the Phanteks Enthoo Pro because it is better than the thermaltake one at the same price. It is higher quality and has equal or better air flow.

I also replaced your fans with a couple of 140mm Bitfenix fans because the included fans with the Enthoo Pro are very good quality, so I would suggest just putting the extra ones on the top mounts of the case.

To answer your question about extra fans, there are fan splitters that you can buy which allow you to connect multiple fans to one connection so yes you can add extra fans.

Other than that the build looks about as you can get right now for 4k gaming and the only suggestion that I have is waiting for Broadwell to come out and get the newer i7.

Good Luck, hope I helped. Here is my suggested parts list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BL 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($469.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($688.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($688.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 1300W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2840.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-27 15:59 EDT-0400

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

Phil923 :

The build in general is very capable for 4k gaming at 60fps. However I would change a couple of things.

The first thing I would change is the CPU cooler, instead of getting the 212 evo and an overpriced tube of thermal paste, you should get a better CPU cooler and use the included paste, it will give you much better cooling for your money.

The second thing I would change is your motherboard, something like the ASRock Extreme6 will be just as good and costs about $40 less.

For Storage, I changed it to a 1tb Samsung 850 pro which is one of the fastest SSDs at the moment and faster than the corsair one.

I also changed the case to the Phanteks Enthoo Pro because it is better than the thermaltake one at the same price. It is higher quality and has equal or better air flow.

I also replaced your fans with a couple of 140mm Bitfenix fans because the included fans with the Enthoo Pro are very good quality, so I would suggest just putting the extra ones on the top mounts of the case.

To answer your question about extra fans, there are fan splitters that you can buy which allow you to connect multiple fans to one connection so yes you can add extra fans.

Other than that the build looks about as you can get right now for 4k gaming and the only suggestion that I have is waiting for Broadwell to come out and get the newer i7.

Good Luck, hope I helped. Here is my suggested parts list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BL 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($469.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($688.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($688.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 1300W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: BitFenix BFF-SPRO-P14025KK-RP 122.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $2840.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-27 15:59 EDT-0400

Hey
The reason why I chosed this motherboard beacuse I will be able to use 2 way SLI with more space between cards so the cards won't be very close to eachother and will have more breathing space for lower temps.Storage SSD corsair XT is faster than Samsung pro.Corsair has 560 read and and 540 write MB/s and PRO samsung has 550 and 520MB/s read and write.Thank you for your reply

corndog1836 · Jun 27, 2015

PatrikVujicic :

Phil923 :

Hey
The reason why I chosed this motherboard beacuse I will be able to use 2 way SLI with more space between cards so the cards won't be very close to eachother and will have more breathing space for lower temps.Storage SSD corsair XT is faster than Samsung pro.Corsair has 560 read and and 540 write MB/s and PRO samsung has 550 and 520MB/s read and write.Thank you for your reply

get the Samsung SSD. you will not see the difference and it will cost a lot less. I like phantek and noctua coolers and they have good paste so you could easily afford one of those coolers and forget that expensive paste... don't wait for Broadwell . intels next upgrade after broadwell will be better and your motherboard should support it. intel has a TICK?TOCK approach. 4970k is a TOCK. Broadwell is a TICK. go for the next TOCK after you 4790k if you wish but you wont need to.

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

corndog1836 :

PatrikVujicic :

get the Samsung SSD. you will not see the difference and it will cost a lot less. I like phantek and noctua coolers and they have good paste so you could easily afford one of those coolers and forget that expensive paste... don't wait for Broadwell . intels next upgrade after broadwell will be better and your motherboard should support it. intel has a TICK?TOCK approach. 4970k is a TOCK. Broadwell is a TICK. go for the next TOCK after you 4790k if you wish but you wont need to.

OK I've decided to go with Noctua nh-d15 cpu cooler and will use their paste and also I will buy samsung pro 1TB and will not wait for next CPUs thank you very much for your help have fun good bye

Frag Maniac · Jun 27, 2015

PatrikVujicic :

Actually the MB he suggested has much better spacing between the Pci Ex 16x lanes than the one you picked, which only has the typical narrow spacing. You'll be running hotter with the GPUs jammed together on that board than on the AsRock Extreme6.

I don't agree with his advice on SSD though. The 850 Pro is barely any faster than the EVO, and costs way more. It has a 10 vs 5 yr warranty, but it's doubtful given PC tech changing so rapidly you'd even hold onto it that long. The 850 EVO is one of the best values in an SSD, and plenty fast.

When it comes to SSDs though, don't just look at the specs, look at reviews. The specs only show best case scenario. Here's a fairly comprehensive review showing the 850 EVO handily beating the Corsair Neutron in a lot of tests., especially I/O per second and real world benches. There are solid reasons it's one of the most popular SSDs sold, and it's not just the price.

http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_ssd_850_evo_ssd_review

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

Frag Maniac :

PatrikVujicic :

Actually the MB he suggested has much better spacing between the Pci Ex 16x lanes than the one you picked, which only has the typical narrow spacing. You'll be running hotter with the GPUs jammed together on that board than on the AsRock Extreme6.

I don't agree with his advice on SSD though. The 850 Pro is barely any faster than the EVO, and costs way more. It has a 10 vs 5 yr warranty, but it's doubtful given PC tech changing so rapidly you'd even hold onto it that long. The 850 EVO is one of the best values in an SSD, and plenty fast.

When it comes to SSDs though, don't just look at the specs, look at reviews. The specs only show best case scenario. Here's a fairly comprehensive review showing the 850 EVO handily beating the Corsair Neutron in a lot of tests., especially I/O per second and real world benches. There are solid reasons it's one of the most popular SSDs sold, and it's not just the price.

http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_ssd_850_evo_ssd_review

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8045/ASR%20Z97Ex6%20Top.png vs http://abload.de/img/e42asrockfatal1tyz97ppue50.jpg
Its more space on asrock professional

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Pro-1TB-vs-Corsair-Neutron-XT-960GB/m15466vsm23267

Frag Maniac · Jun 27, 2015

PatrikVujicic :

No, it's not, after checking again, I was looking at the Pci Ex 2.0 slots on the Pro, but the Ext6 has same spacing on Pci Ex 3.0 16x slots. The only difference is, the Pro has 3 Pci Ex 16x slots vs 2, but you can only use 8x on each slot in dual SLI. Plus the lowest slot on the Pro, if ever even used, would likely be very close to the PSU and draw in heat from it.

The Pro is very similar, but the bottom slot is 3.0 vs 2.0.

These are taken from Newegg btw, which is a very good source for beginner builders if you want accurate Pci Ex spacing details.

So, essentially, he's still right. You could suffice with the Ext6 and save money in the process. The Fatal1ty products always come with an upcharge for the name/look, and often have useless features. You can't really make use of three 3.0 16x slots unless it's a high end triple/quad SLI board that has the PEX 8747 chip built in. You CAN however find 1150 MBs that support dual 16x use for around $200.

The only other thing I was going to add is soon you will have a 6700k option on the 1151 Skylake platform, which supports DDR4. Plus the Z170 chipset it uses is no doubt more robust. Plus DDR4 has lowered in latency since it debuted, and is now available in as low as CAS 10.

So if you can hold off for a little while, I would wait and check benches and prices on that stuff.

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

I wouldn't use SLI on those two PCIexspress lanes on asrock professional.You missed one pciexspress lane on asrock professional look at first pciexspress lane 1 above the one you were looking at.Asrock professional has 4 PCIexspress lanes and I would use SLI on 1st and 3rd.

ko888 · Jun 27, 2015

From the ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Professional's motherboard manual:

PCIe slots:

PCIE1 (PCIe 2.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x4 lane width graphics cards
PCIE2 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x16 lane width graphics cards.
PCIE3 (PCIe 2.0 x1 slot) is used for PCI Express x1 lane width cards.
PCIE4 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x8 lane width graphics cards.
PCIE5 (PCIe 2.0 x1 slot) is used for PCI Express x1 lane width cards.
PCIE6 (PCIe 3.0 x16 slot) is used for PCI Express x4 lane width graphics cards.

You can only use PCIE2 and PCIE4 for two NVIDIA graphics cards in 2-way SLI mode.

SLI requires that a minimum of 8 PCI Express lanes be wired to each graphics card slot.

You can see GeForce GTX 980 Ti performance in 2-way and 3-way SLI mode here (2160p = 4K):
http://www.maximumpc.com/geforce-gtx-980-ti-3-way-sli-overkilling-it/

You won't reach 60 FPS in GTAV.

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

ko888 :

ok ty but I can use 2 SLI PCIE 1 and PCIE 5 on Gigabyte z97 GT right? http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-GT-645x602.jpg

ko888 · Jun 27, 2015

PatrikVujicic :

ko888 :

ok ty but I can use 2 SLI PCIE 1 and PCIE 5 on Gigabyte z97 GT right? http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/gigabyte-z97x-gaming-GT-645x602.jpg

Yes. The GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming GT uses the PLX PEX8747 bridge chip that provides 16 PCI Express lanes to each of PCIE1 and PCIE5 when only using two cards.

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

ko888 :

PatrikVujicic :

Yes. The GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming GT uses the PLX PEX8747 bridge chip that provides 16 PCI Express lanes to each of PCIE1 and PCIE5 when only using two cards.

1 more question if you can help please sorry to bother.In my country the cheapest MOBO that supports SLI is Asus z87 PRO V edition http://www.proshop.dk/mediacontent/24/23/2423475-2o.jpg
and I can't find the information about SLI if I can run 2 way SLI on this board on PCIE2 and PCIE5.Do you know?

Frag Maniac · Jun 27, 2015

PatrikVujicic :

You obviously didn't read my post. I already acknowledged and even showed a pic of the 3rd Pci Ex 16x slot you want to use, but as I said, you don't really gain anything by it. All you'd be doing is trading heat from a close GPU, to that of a close PSU, which heat rises off of. Plus you'd have to use an extra long bridge connector, which would add a bit of latency.

Furthermore, I could have linked you to multi SLI boards that use the PEX 8747 chip, but with current GPUs, even the GTX 980 has on average only 1% difference in performance when using Pci Ex 3.0 16x vs 8x.

With SLI it may be even less, because typically each card runs at a bit less usage percentage.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/

ko888 :

No, actually it doesn't. The G1 uses that chip, not the G1.

From the review site he took the pic from...

"The smaller brother to the GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 boards is the GA-Z97X-Gaming GT motherboard. On the surface, it looks quite similar with a few exceptions. Perhaps one of the biggest difference is the lack of liquid cooling support on the large heatsink around the CPU. Gigabyte kept the precise digital CPU power design with eight phases and the long lifespan durable black solid caps. You also still have 4-way graphics card support, but there is no PLX bridge chip on this board."

Source: http://www.legitreviews.com/gigabyte-z97-motherboard-overview_139874/3

PatrikVujicic · Jun 27, 2015

Frag Maniac :

PatrikVujicic :

You obviously didn't read my post. I already acknowledged and even showed a pic of the 3rd Pci Ex 16x slot you want to use, but as I said, you don't really gain anything by it. All you'd be doing is trading heat from a close GPU, to that of a close PSU, which heat rises off of. Plus you'd have to use an extra long bridge connector, which would add a bit of latency.

Furthermore, I could have linked you to multi SLI boards that use the PEX 8747 chip, but with current GPUs, even the GTX 980 has on average only 1% difference in performance when using Pci Ex 3.0 16x vs 8x.

With SLI it may be even less, because typically each card runs at a bit less usage percentage.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/

Ok sorry and thank you

ko888 · Jun 27, 2015

PatrikVujicic :

The ASUS Z87-PRO(V EDITION) motherboard user's manual says yes. 8 PCI Express lanes to each of the second and fifth slots when using two graphics cards.

Frag Maniac · Jun 27, 2015

Guys, read what I added above. If he wants the PEX 8747 chip, the GT Giga board doesn't have it. You have to step up the G1 model, which costs over $50 more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128701&cm_re=GA-Z97X-Gaming_G1-_-13-128-701-_-Product

ko888 · Jun 27, 2015

Frag Maniac :

You're wrong. I checked the picture from legitreviews.com with the ones on GIGABYTE's own website. It is definitely the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming GT and it definitely uses the PLX PEX8747 bridge chip.

It's clearly labelled in the GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming GT motherboard manual:

Frag Maniac · Jun 28, 2015

ko888 :

Weird, I was going by what Legit Reviews themselves said in their review of the GT. So if I'M wrong, it's only because OP's very source is wrong. Don't kill the messenger. LOL

"The smaller brother to the GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 boards is the GA-Z97X-Gaming GT motherboard. On the surface, it looks quite similar with a few exceptions. Perhaps one of the biggest difference is the lack of liquid cooling support on the large heatsink around the CPU. Gigabyte kept the precise digital CPU power design with eight phases and the long lifespan durable black solid caps. You also still have 4-way graphics card support, but there is no PLX bridge chip on this board."

Source: http://www.legitreviews.com/gigabyte-z97-motherboard-overview_139874/3

That's a good price for a MB that has a PLX chip. Though the jury is still out if it would help much on a 980 Ti. Hopefully we'll see some Pci Ex scaling tests on it soon.

ko888 · Jun 28, 2015

The GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 doesn't have any G1/4 threaded fittings on the VRM cooler.

It's the GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK (Ultra Durable Black Edition) that has the G1/4 threaded fittings.

What do you think about this build?(my first pc build im planning to get for 4k gaming 60FPS)

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