i7 3930k vs fx 8350

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

Hi there i am wondering which cpu i should pick the i7 3930k is used and costs 240 euros and the fx 8350 is 180 new .
also i can get the Asus Rampage IV Formula for 150 with the i7 3930k
and i would get the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P for 85 with the fx 8350
So which cpu should i get i would get the one that would last the longest until i would have to upgrade
I7 3930k + Asus Rampage IV Formula for 390 euros or
FX 8350 with Gigabyte 970A-UD3P for 235?
Thanks for the help

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

Well, the I7 3930k is a LOT stronger than the fx 8350. More than 1.5x as fast in every aspect.
However, the question remains what you'd use the pc for - for a gaming rig an I5 4590 on a b85 board would be cheaper and faster than either of your mentioned cpus.

kawininjazx · Jul 3, 2015

Go with the i7, I have a first generation and it plays every game out there no problem.

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

DubbleClick :

i would mostly use it for gaming and watching movies at the same time.i also want the cpu to last a long time atleast 3 years for me until i would like to upgrade the cpu

DHFF · Jul 3, 2015

I have an 8320 in one machine and an Xeon 1230 in the other (its equivalent to an i7) and for day to day tasks there is no difference. the only place you are going to notice is if you are running intense programs that need a lot of processing power. and with chips like the i7 and 8350 you need to do a lot to tax them. The 8350 is cheaper but it does run hotter so that is a consideration. The i5 DubbleClick suggested is a very good idea, I use them in most of my data servers and they work like a champ though I would go with an H97 board (Z97 if you want to overclock) as the B85 is kind of a dead end. If you have no plans to upgrade then the B85 would probably be ok.

Amro Alnajar · Jul 3, 2015

It all depends on your budget. if you can spend money then go i7, if you cant, go amd. Really there is a big difference between both and i would recommend the i7 BUT i wouldn't buy it if i dont have enough money. good luck.

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

I would like the cpu to last at least 3-4 years before the newest games are maxing the cpu out to 100%

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

and also i can trade in my xbox 360 adn get the i7 for 150 euros and the motherboard for 140 so it would then cost 290 would it be worth it then?

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

As I said, going for the I7 in a gaming pc is a waste, a new gen I5 is cheaper and does better in that aspect. The fx 8350 is no match by far but just as expensive as. As for b85/h97, h97 is just as dead end as b85, there's no new cpus releasing for either board and with the exception of the overpriced (and not any better than haswells) broadwell I5 5675c and I7 5775c. The only circumstance where you'd need a h87/97 or z87/97 board would be RAID.

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

DubbleClick :

But i want my cpu to last 3-4 years without having to upgrade

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

And you think an older I7 would suddenly become better than a new gen I5 in gaming? That's not how it works, cpus are neither wine nor whiskey.

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

DubbleClick :

All i really want is a cpu that can run games aswell and doing other task such as web browsing and watching videos at the same time without being run at 100% load. i also want it to last 3-4 years and i appreciate your help thanks

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

Then an I5 is a perfect match.

Amro Alnajar · Jul 3, 2015

then go and buy a new generation i7. i disagree with dubbleclick that i7 is useless in gaming. it lasts more than the i5 and it's performance is way better. if you want something to last 2 - 3 years then pick an i7-4970k and overclock it later. Though you will need to keep an eye on your gpu if you want to be able to play the games that will come out in 2 - 2 years.

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

Yeah but... no. If you have no idea about the topic and don't even bother looking up benchmarks before posting advise, please just don't do so. As been shown in many, many (all) benchmarks, an I5 and an I7 on the same clock speed perform close to the same in games.

And then, there is no freaking I7 4970k. There is the I7 4790k and the I7 4960x. When people not exactly fit on this topic get to get non existing products recommended, things may get confusing.

TechCIDLC · Jul 3, 2015

Technically the i7 is better at everything than the FX 8350, except price.

jcgamer507 · Jul 3, 2015

Forgot to say that the i7 and the asus mobo is used but the fx 8350 is brand new

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

Doesn't change a bit that the i5 4460/4590 would be a superior choice to both, being cheaper and delivering better performance.

Amro Alnajar · Jul 3, 2015

DubbleClick :

My apology for any confusion i made, what i meant is the i7 4790k.

make sure you know what you're talking about before arguing because that will only embarrase you and make you look like a fool.

So let's compare intel's best common i5 wich is the 4690k and the i7 4790k.

in the i7 you get 8mb cache, 4.4ghz (you can overclock it) and 8 threads.

in the i5 you get 6mb cache, 4 threads and 3.9 ghz(you can overclock it) but only 4 threads.

in the long run, the i7 is way better. You're talking about two different levels of processors.

So we got this solved, the i7 wins, the i5 is for people who can't afford the i7, or people who don't know what an i7 processor is, like you.

It's either you don't know how to read a benchmark or you have been researching on the wrong websites. Ask any computer expert, anyone, and they will tell you that the i7 is way better than the i5. It doesn't matter if the processor is faster by 0.00001 mhz or 1000 ghz, it's still better.

The i5 is the AMD of intel, only good for the price.

Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163 · Jul 3, 2015

People are stuck in the world of benchmarks. They're never accurate. The FX 8350 is a great processor, it's fast enough and so is the i7 3930k. I haven't seen any processor even going back to the older generations, that 100% during normal use. So you're good with anything OP. And by the way, who says you are stuck between only those two? Is your max budget 390 euros? If it is, and you value multitasking, then get the Xeon 1231 and a H97 motherboard. Intel doesn't have to be expensive. But I can't stress enough that either of them will do.

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

Amro Alnajar :

DubbleClick :

My apology for any confusion i made, what i meant is the i7 4790k.

make sure you know what you're talking about before arguing because that will only embarrase you and make you look like a fool.

So let's compare intel's best common i5 wich is the 4690k and the i7 4790k.

in the i7 you get 8mb cache, 4.4ghz (you can overclock it) and 8 threads.

in the i5 you get 6mb cache, 4 threads and 3.9 ghz(you can overclock it) but only 4 threads.

in the long run, the i7 is way better. You're talking about two different levels of processors.

So we got this solved, the i7 wins, the i5 is for people who can't afford the i7, or people who don't know what an i7 processor is, like you.

It's either you don't know how to read a benchmark or you have been researching on the wrong websites. Ask any computer expert, anyone, and they will tell you that the i7 is way better than the i5. It doesn't matter if the processor is faster by 0.00001 mhz or 1000 ghz, it's still better.

The i5 is the AMD of intel, only good for the price.

Did you even bother looking up benchmarks? Apparently you didn't, because throwing "oh i5 only has 4 threads and 2mb less level 3 cache my gawd so bad" into the room does nothing... except making yourself look stupid.

But hey, I actually bothered to use google for literally thirty seconds to prove you wrong, as seen here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k/5

Or, if you like this better: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=i5+4690k+i7+4790k+discrete+gpu+gaming

DubbleClick · Jul 3, 2015

Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163 :

Sure, a q6600 is fast enough too. No reason to upgrade, huh?

Amro Alnajar · Jul 3, 2015

DubbleClick :

Amro Alnajar :

Did you even bother looking up benchmarks? Apparently you didn't, because throwing "oh i5 only has 4 threads and 2mb less level 3 cache my gawd so bad" into the room does nothing... except making yourself look stupid.

But hey, I actually bothered to use google for literally thirty seconds to prove you wrong, as seen here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devils-canyon-review-intel-core-i7-4790k-and-i5-4690k/5

Or, if you like this better: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=i5+4690k+i7+4790k+discrete+gpu+gaming

haha... you continue to make me laugh.

These benchmarks are not accurate. Since when did the 4790k overclock to only 4.7ghz? My friend's i7 overclocked to 5.2ghz, and some rumors say you can overclock it to 5.7 which i will have a go at when i get back from vacation. Anyways. ill show you a picture when i get to see his PC. My friend you are ignorant if you think an i7 is the same as an i5, i7's are way more powerful and ''future proof'' like someone up there said.

Also, i don't need benchmarks to know what's better, i have both processors and i have compared them in game and i got way more fps on the i7. (same gpu on both pc's) (geforce gtx 970)

go save your benchmarks and buy an i7 and you'll see how stupid you made yourself look.

good luck.

DubbleClick · Jul 4, 2015

You must be trolling, 5.2ghz on an I7 4790k is reachable for maybe 0,1% of all I7 4790k's. 5.7ghz? Absolutely off the table. 4.7ghz is average, 4.8ghz a bit above, 4.9 lucky, 5.0 very lucky. An I7 4790k that runs stable on 5.0ghz sells for around $550-$650. Check silicone lottery or other overclocking retailers if you don't believe.
And even then, you know that I5 4690k's and I7 4790k's are literally the same except for disabled HT and 2mb of l3 cache? Same silicone, same pin layout, same voltage regulation, same architecture, same tim, same ihs, same... everything. If the I7 4790k did get to 5.2ghz on average, the I5 4690k would too.

Also, why would these benchmarks not be accurate? SLI gtx 770 is a damn strong gpu setup, so it's not like that would limit fps to a hard cap. And if you say the results are faked, you better go away from tomshardware quick, since anandtech is a partner site and owned by the same company, iirc.
I ran benchmarks myself, by the way. Through various games with HT on/off. On average, I got <1% fps more with hyper threading off. May not be completely accurate for most users, though as all I tested with were a single gtx 680 and gtx 660ti sli.

No thanks to buying another I7 4790k, by the way. First I doubt I'd get any higher overclock than with the one I have (4.9ghz stable, 5.0ghz benchmark'able) and second I have no use for another pc as strong.

Amro Alnajar · Jul 4, 2015

this is going to be my last post here because this argument is pointless, but just so you get educated a little bit more:

As i said, the 5.7ghz processor is not something ive worked on, it's just a rumor someone was talking about at work.

and again, even if it's faster than the i5 by 1%, it's still better. The i5 base clock is way lower than the i7. That means if you want to run the i5 on the same base clock as the i7 you'll need more cooling and more resources, unlike the i7 which you can just install and run.

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