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I'm not as familiar with streaming and there are a lot of variables that impact performance. It depends if someone's using twitch, obs, xsplit, making use of nvidia's nvenc encoding and so on. While it sounds simple, streaming is a rather broad topic much like gaming is. Gaming can include anything from minecraft to witcher 3.

For heavier multitasking at the same price as your original build, there are i7 systems which will likely beat out both the i5 and 8350 in gaming/streaming.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/4x3-6GHz-Windows-wireless-cardreader-multimedia/dp/B00SHK949S/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_21?ie=UTF8&refRID=0D7MXKB2ST12AV5TRYHG

Most games don't need 8 cores/threads. The 8350's advantage may be when streaming which again really depends on...
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Can I ask why this would be the better option? I understand that it has a lower cost which of course is a benefit. But the i5 also has less cores and a lower clock speed. So ignoring price is there any other benefits which would make it the better option compared to the AMD system?
 
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You can't compare speed between amd and intel. Intel gets more instructions done per ghz than amd does so a 'slower' looking chip is actually faster. Especially in games that are cpu bound like the ones you're referring to. More cores isn't always better. Amd's approach is slightly closer to multicore than intel's hyperthreading but because there are 4 modules each consisting of 2 cores and some shared resources on the fx 8350 (the entire fx line), it's not the same as say an 8 core i7 even with ht disabled. Usually amd is only the 'better' option because it's cheaper. In this case the i5 is the better peformer AND it's a good bit cheaper.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-september-2013/8
 
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Makes sense I suppose. Would this i5 system be able to live stream and record these games because I want to be able to do livestreams and record gameplay to upload to YouTube. So will this system be able to handle recording, editing, rendering and livestreaming at a playable FPS with little or no framerate lag?
 
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I'm not as familiar with streaming and there are a lot of variables that impact performance. It depends if someone's using twitch, obs, xsplit, making use of nvidia's nvenc encoding and so on. While it sounds simple, streaming is a rather broad topic much like gaming is. Gaming can include anything from minecraft to witcher 3.

For heavier multitasking at the same price as your original build, there are i7 systems which will likely beat out both the i5 and 8350 in gaming/streaming.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/4x3-6GHz-Windows-wireless-cardreader-multimedia/dp/B00SHK949S/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_21?ie=UTF8&refRID=0D7MXKB2ST12AV5TRYHG

Most games don't need 8 cores/threads. The 8350's advantage may be when streaming which again really depends on what resolution, software, if gpu encoding is used or not etc. Even if it streams smooth, the cores themselves are weaker meaning less performance in games. The i7 has twice as many threads as the i5 and the only reason it's often passed up is because of price. For whatever reason, these systems have the i7 priced the same as the 8350 which takes away any price advantage amd may have had.

It did say it included the gtx 750 where the previous systems had the 960 so the graphics card isn't quite as strong. Though for newer games a better card than either would probably be desirable. These are budget prebuilt gaming rigs. From the two games mentioned, I believe both are heavy on the cpu and use little in the way of gpu so this would be a non issue. Finding benchmarks for older games with newer hardware isn't always easy. Most civ v benchmarks are from 2010/2011 with much older gpu's, newer benchmarks revolve around civilization beyond earth. At least from what I could find.
 
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i5s are usually stronger processors in general though.
 
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