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Okay guys, im having trouble finding which GPU to buy,so here is my problem.

Im having a very hard time deciding which GPU to buy in my country.

Now since I dont live in USA and if i did I would have already bought myself GTX 980 Ti, but unfortunately since i live in Europe here the VAT is 20% of US price tag + local country tax, and GPU are seriously overpriced.

Now I have 4 choices on what GPU I want to buy:

- R9 290X, the cheapest one here is Asus Matrix which is 364 Euro (406$)

- GTX 980, the cheapest one here is Asus Strix which is 594 Euro (663$)

- GTX 980 Ti and R9 Fury X, the bane of my wallet, the cheapest ones are 800 EU (893$), thats right damn 900$

So as you can see the prices are clearly ripping the money out of my pocket because of how much they are, and while I have the money to buy either one of them I really dont want to feel like im being ripped off even though that is how market here works.

I have also another list of things which will hopefully help you guys determine which GPU I should buy, as to see what is better for me.

1) I just bought Asus MG279Q monitor, im aiming towards 1440p gameplay.

2) I dont play that much modern games few of them actually (Witcher 3, Batman AK etc...), but when I do i would rather like to max them out.

3) The games I mostly play are:

-WoW
-Dota 2
-CS GO
-Starcraft 2
-Diablo
-Skyrim
-MK X

and some others too.

Hopefully i have given you guys enough info to make your decision, this is really confusing for me since I have never been buying PC components for so much money, and I dont know which one is more worth it than the other.
If you have any questions for anything else, let me know,thanks.
 
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The new fury performs admirably at 1440p, it will be future proof for demanding games like the witcher 3 and it will most likely max out the games at reasonable fps, so if you have the cash it's definitely a good buy and In future if you decide to go 4k, crossfiring the fury will give you excellent performance even at that resolution.
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The answer is simple: None of them.

R9 290X: too old.
GTX 980: very bad performance/price ratio
GTX 980 Ti & Fury X: way too overpriced and u don't need that much performance

The solution: The recently released R9 390. But first I'd check the PSU, AMD GPUs are really hungry.
 
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You do know a 390 is just a renamed 290 right?


Too old heh.

 
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The best solution price wise is a 290. Get a nice aftermarket cooled version overclock it.

You will need a GOOD 650w power supply though.

It will max out your list of games at 1440p.

Witcher 3 you will need to tweak though, very playable with minimal compromises.

Batman runs like shit for everyone.


This depends on you having a proper cpu of course.
 
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I have i5 2500K @ 4.5 GHz so hopefully no bottlenecking, anyway concerning 390X, i dont know is it good because its a rebrand but also Im not quite sure which side to choose, because of drivers, it seems that AMD makes 'bad' drivers while NVIDIA makes 'good' drivers.
 
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Yes, a relabelled 290 with a partial better performance than a 290X and 8 GB VRAM which could be very useful for a high resolution like the 1440p.

Concerning the PSU: 550W should do it.

And I wouldn't go for the 390X, it's not worth the price difference (about 80-100€ for 8-10% better performance).
 
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it is literally just an overclocked 290, there were 8gb versions already as well.

He really needs at least 650w, massive power spikes.
 
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the 980ti and fury x are definitely not worth it and especially for the games you play, the best card to suite your needs would be the r9 290(which has the best performance for its price) or the 390. This cards would need little tweaks(reduce or turn off anti aliasing or reducing shadow quality etc)in graphics options in demanding games like the witcher 3 to have a smooth gameplay, which doesn't really make a difference in image quality especially at 1440p
 
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The new fury performs admirably at 1440p, it will be future proof for demanding games like the witcher 3 and it will most likely max out the games at reasonable fps, so if you have the cash it's definitely a good buy and In future if you decide to go 4k, crossfiring the fury will give you excellent performance even at that resolution.
 
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here's a link of the performance of the new fury at 1440p from a reliable site
tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_Fury_Strix/images/perfrel_2560.gif
the new fury is about 9% faster than the 980 and is about 14% slower(without project cars which is slower on amd cards and from your list don't even play it) than the 980 ti, so it's now your choice to make if you think $100-$150 price for the 980ti is worth it for about 14% more performance.

fury 9% faster whilst 50$ more than the 980
980ti 14% faster whilst $100-150 more than the fury.

4k performance.
tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_Fury_Strix/images/perfrel_3840.gif
At 4k the fury is 14% faster than the 980 whilst only 9% slower than the 980ti, so it becomes opposite at 4k resolution.
 
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Thanks for the answer,I was wondering however what about AMD vs NVIDIA drivers, ir seems people are saying that AMD is slow at driver releaeses ans that they dont give thst muxh performance.Also is 4GB VRAM enough.
 
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About the drivers it's true to a certain degree but if the performance of the amd card Is higher than that of nvidia card the drivers won't do much to catch up and as time will go the amd card will only get better(because there's room for improvement) where as nvidia card's performance won't increase much, this happened when the 290x released, it was quite slower than the 780ti at release but as the drivers improved, the 290x got faster and faster and right now it has become quite the opposite as the 290x has become quite a lot faster than the 780ti, so in this case the fury is already faster than the 980 so going forward it will get more faster than the 980.
About the vram being enough, so far it doesn't seem the 4gb vram is holding back the fury as the fury x(which also has 4gb) was tested in crossfire at 4k resolution and showed no sign of being held back by the vram and was also quite faster than SLI 980ti(6gb) and as far as the fury and 980 are concerned they both have the same amount of vram. If you have any more questions please feel free.
(please don't forget to mark the thread as solved after your done asking)
 
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R9 290X, the cheapest one here is Asus Matrix which is 364 Euro (406$) - Rebrand , Dx12 Support if you are having additional options like the one below i would definitely not recommend this considering amd will be releasing new architecture next year why go for rebrands.

- GTX 980, the cheapest one here is Asus Strix which is 594 Euro (663$). Alternative is the Amd Fury i am unsure about the rate in your area But they are both good cards both support Dx12_1 and best of all they are not rebrands so atleast you will have better driver support. Also the R9 Fury is faster than the 980 according to the articles i have read so far.

- GTX 980 Ti and R9 Fury X, the bane of my wallet, the cheapest ones are 800 EU (893$), thats right damn 900$. I am not really sure you really need either of these cards considering your monitor i mean the 980 or the fury is perfectly capable of handling games on the monitor you have stated.

According to most articles the fury and the fury X outperforms their competitors namely due to their hbm feature but they also suffer from coil whine issue or well used to i believe the second batch had that resolved they put cooler master coolers. Personal opinion go for the Fury they are a bit more futureproof considering hbm DX12_1 and the new architecture compared to nvidia who will be releasing hbm in their pascal models the 980ti and the fury x does indeed seem to be the bane of your wallet at that resolution i saw this one article on wccftech where a guy played on 3 4k monitors with one fury x and you aren't even using 4k. Another reason for me suggesting amd card would be the feature of freesync on your monitor i checked your monitor on newegg so you can add a additional monitor and play with freesync you gotta pay premium for nvidias gsync but i would recommend you look into the coil whine issue i will check it when i get free time and update here.
 
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The Radeon R9 Fury is launching next week, and it looks like the newer air cooled version has a better price/performance ratio than the Fury X. You also have a Freesync monitor (same one i do!), so you should be comparing the price and performance of the radeons. 290X/390/Fury/Fury X.

Also, AMD drivers are not worse than Nvidia drivers. I use gaming computers with both - and Nvidia's have caused the occasional crash. AMD's haven't.
 
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Thanks guys dor all the answers, I have a few more questions and then I will choose rhe solved answer, even though you all have been helpful.
Does the new fury have coil whine issues ?

Also what is the best PSU for Fury ?


Thanks
 
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If you decide to get the fury the best model would the sapphire tri-x(not the overclocked version as you can do it yourself and don't have to pay the $30 premium), it's super quite doesn't have any coil whine and remain cool.
 
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