Can a single R9 390x Tri-x OC run games like Gta V, Witcher 3 and Battlefield 4 at Ultra?

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I can only speak to The Witcher 3 as I am playing that one. I am Running a GTX 980 SC card on Ultra. I am running an i7 4770k CPU on a Z87 MOBO. Although things are doing well, I think they would be better on a Z97 MOBO as I think I may be strangling the Card performance to some degree.
 
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I will be building my first rig with Asrock Z97 Extreme 4 and Intel core i7 4790k. Would that be able to run it smoothly?
 
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That should be fine. I wish I had waited a tad longer for the Z97 and Devil's Canyon, when I upgraded.
 
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What makes you say that a 4770k on a Z87 mobo is slowing down a 980? Performance wise Z87 & Z97 makes no difference. And the 4790k is just a 4770k clocked a little higher (at stock) and has a slightly improved thermal interface. Even if you get 2-300 mhz more out of a 4790K over a 4770K (which is being generous!) you're talking 5% extra performance on what is literally the fastest gaming CPU in the world (except for the very, very few games which can utilise the 6 cores/12 threads of the extreme processors). If your CPU is holding back a single 980, then those people who've put down $1200 on SLI 980tis are completing wasting their money.

OP, there is no single card at the moment that can handle those games on ultra at 4K, though if you want the one that gets closest, the 980ti is the way to go.
 
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I know what the differences are between the Haswell and Devils Canyon. Too small to justify upgrading from the 4770k to 4790k and as i said, would have been better to wait. As for the Z87 vs Z97, the biggest difference would be in future proofing as the Z97 has support for the 5th Gen and beyond CPUs. It also has support for SATA express ( more through put for SSDs ) as well M.2. Incidently, I am not dissing the 4770k. It is a very good CPU and I have the one in here clocking 4.5. These days, the way things are designed, you are primarily using the GPU, and in the case of the newer Nvidia GPUs, they will also take over some of the computing duties as well. That comes down to the Bandwidth and your PCIe lanes. The MOBOs for the Skylake witth supposedly feature PCIe 4.0. The Intel Extreme boards ( x99 ) already feature that. I had my i7 2600k on a Z68 MOBO. Fine, at the time, then along came the Z77. I was intially running a GTX 560Ti then went to a GTX 680. Would have been better of having the Z77 with those cards. The Z68 was PCIe x16 2.0 and the Z77 was PCIe x16 3.0. Wider lanes are always better. The bottom line is, if there is a newer chipset available, go for it.
 
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I read on a lot of websites and forum that the R9 390x is close to the performance of the GTX 980 ti and a little bit more capable than the GTX 980. If those websites and forums were true then isn't R9 390x the way to go? Budget wise that is. But is it really close to the GTX 980 ti and a little better than the GTX 980?
 
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I have no Issues with the Card. I have used both AMD & Nvidia and have found both to be good. With Nvidia, I prefer EVGA and the AMD, Sapphire. It is a good card for sure and the price on them is a good value. Unlike CPUs, The AMD GPUs are very good on performance and as I said, I have used both.
 
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I don't want to get too bogged down with this and offtrack, but there's a bit of mis-information here.
- Broadwell will run fine on Z87 motherboards as long as the manufacturer provides a BIOS update. In any case, Broadwell offers very little for desktop enthusiasts.
- PCIe 4.0 is not out yet and all the leaked Z170 boards (for Skylake) do not feature PCIe 4 (nor does X99)
- PCIe bandwidth is very, very rarely a bottleneck for gaming graphics cards. Even PCIe 2.0 x8 is enough is almost any situation. A single card on PCIe 2.0 x16 is still absolutely fine.
- We've yet to see any serious SATA express SSDs on the market, M.2 looks more likely but you can always put that in a PCIe card.

I agree with your final statement, that new chipsets are "better", but in reality the gains are usually very small. There are heaps of happy enthusiasts still sitting on Z68 mobos with 2500k or 2600k processors that are basically offering the same gaming experience as a high end Intel build 4 years later. Graphics cards are still improving, but in reality progress in CPU has slowed to a crawl and unless you really care about newer features, there's not much pushing people to upgrade.
 
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I realise I'm late here and you may have already made your purchase, but the 390X is a good deal slower than a 980ti. The much more expensive Fury X is almost as fast as the 980ti, though still a touch slower, but it's the same price as the 980ti and a lot more than the 390X. The 390X is actually just a rebadge of the 290X, with an extra 4GB RAM, and they raised the price a bunch. You'd be better off picking up a 290X if you can, it'll usually be $100 less for the same card (minus the RAM - which won't help you too much anyway).

The Fury (nonX) is looking like a much better card as it's pretty close to Fury X and 980ti (within 10%), but a good deal cheaper. It'll just be hard to find at the moment as it's only just released.
 
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Think I got ahead of myself on the PCIe 4. It is being talked about, but may be as far as it has gotten so far. Here lately I have been seeing so much stuff about the Z170 Chipset, Skylake, DDR4 and PCIe 4 it is getting scrambled. Supposedly, the Z170 boards will give you x16 on each lane in SLI / Crossfire rather than x8 on each lane with two cards. Yeah, I was running a 3.0 card on an x68 board w/ i7 2600k. It did fine. They are backwards compatible. I had thought about upgrading to an Extreme build, but I see no point in a Hex Core, so am waiting to see what the Skylake & Z107 look like.
 
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What if I crossfire the R9 390x? It would cost a bit more than the 980ti alone(Only by a few bucks) but would it be more powerful?
 
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It would be but, Crossfire adds its own set of issues. Not all games support it (although most do), and some people complain of micro stutter caused by it. However the new series of cards should combat this better, the possibility is still there.
 
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Cross Fire is always an option. It will be helpful for higher frame rates at higher Res. These days, as far as GPUs go, both AMD & Nvidia have been one upping each other. Nvidia will release a strong card, then afterwards, just release some rebranded stuff. The AMD will come out with a new card / GPU, then Nvidia is playing catch up. Pretty entertaining, but good for the consumer I guess. As I said, I have used both and have no particular preference as far as GPU goes. I am brand loyal though. I prefer EVGA for Nvidia and Sapphire for AMD.
 
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