looking at new ram 1600 or 1866

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my current set up is:

mobo msi 970a-g46
cpu amd fx 6200
cm 212 cooler
kingston hyper fury x 1866 16gb
r7 260x oc 2gddr5
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W Power Supply
1tb western hdd.

had a few blue screens recently at random times so want to renew my ram what would u recommend? also would u go for 8gb or 16gb?

After ram i will be renewing hdd and getting a solid state.

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please feel free to post your evidence. theres virtually no difference between 1600 and 1866 maybe 2Ns in respoce time depending on the latency but thats about it.

maybe if he went up to 2400 there would be a noticeable change in stuff like productivity but from 1600-1866 the difference would be a marginal, at best 1% . so defiantly not worth the outlay.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ddr-dram-myths,4155.html just posted today... take a look.
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16GB is relatively similar in price to 8GB these days and it never hurts to have more. 2x8GB 1866MHz with a low CAS latency is a great option, and you may even receive some benefit from 2133MHz but at the cost of an increased voltage.

Seeing as you've had RAM fail in the past-- I'm sure you can appreciate the value of stable RAM, and you should always buy a module with quality DIMMs, and effective heatsinks (or re-sink them yourself if you're that invested).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226693

These are very new and it's hard to say exactly what you'll get but I'm sure you can run them at 1866MHz with respectable timings, especially if you opt for 1.5V. Mushkin has always produced fast DIMMs in the past and these are their newest and likely most stable modules, what's more is they will be more than sufficient if your typical bandwidth has been under 8GB. That's my recommendation.
 
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I disagree as there's several applications that benefit from 1600-1866, but less so from 1866-2000+, and a quality kit SHOULD be capable of similar timings at 1866 anyhow.
 
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please feel free to post your evidence. theres virtually no difference between 1600 and 1866 maybe 2Ns in respoce time depending on the latency but thats about it.

maybe if he went up to 2400 there would be a noticeable change in stuff like productivity but from 1600-1866 the difference would be a marginal, at best 1% . so defiantly not worth the outlay.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ddr-dram-myths,4155.html just posted today... take a look.
 
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http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/march/haswellrealworld

If you look at these graphs there's a steep diminishing return after 1866 for real world applications. I don't know what your point is as the Tom's article actually supports my point stating that having no performance gains after 1600 is a "common myth."

Also, what outlay are you talking about, exactly? There's no applicable difference in cost or voltage.
 
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thanks for the swift replies it all makes a interesting read as i am new to looking into ram timings and cas latency's,

with the ram u suggested for it would u suggest using it and running it with a oc'd voltage at 1.5v instead of the standard 1.35 it states?

i can possibly look at higher speed rams im not stuck in such as only want 1600-1866 so if u think the higher speed stuff would be better im all for it ideally i want to finish my upgrades in the next few weeks and then get 2 years out of the system before i have to start again.

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The fastest RAM you should be looking at is 2133 CL9, but to achieve that you need 1.65V. Like I stated above a higher voltage is going to lower your lifespan and a slighty slower (1866MHz at CL9) is achievable at 1.5V, which would still net you a benefit over 1600MHz.

My recommendation was to use the new Mushkin modules and either run them at 1.35V with looser timings or 1.5V and make CL9 your goal.

 
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thanks for clearing that up im not the best with oc'ing but im pretty sure i can change voltages and such using the bios.

thanks for your help in this matter and i will probably be ordering a set of the ram u reccomended on payday this week.

cheers
 
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just a quick fyi as payday is now approaching this has come up whats your thoughts?

http://www.ebuyer.com/248846-corsair-8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-vengeance-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&
gclid=CLmN4PmSmscCFcPMtAodhAQBcw#fo_c=951&fo_k=2e133460064af81aae3a21efc47ec9e6&fo_s=gplauk
 
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thanks for the reply on this so fast. my only concern with the mushkin which i hear good things about is it means bringing it in from the states with newegg my only concern is if i have to rma i need to send it back to the states??
 
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If you're buying from Newegg they include a warranty (something like 30-days standard return policy) and you can get a new one through them.

EDIT: Or at least they do in the U.S, it should tell you at checkout.
 
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