PCI E 2.0 x16 Video Card advice needed.

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Hey folks, new here and in need of some assistance. I am out of my depth with things in this area. I built my own system a few years back and have tinkered with it, updating here and there. However, I am not a tech, and unfortunately, calling my MoBo manufacture lead me to a mumbling fool on the other end when trying to get information out of him. Could not understand him and so, I come to you as I keep seeing threads from this site when I google for answers.

I have the following parts that are relevant:

Mobo: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A97/specifications/
Graphics Card: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3853743&CatId=7005
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153116
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

My Motherboard is ancient, and I realize this. I am limited to 1 PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot, with another one that is designated with an extra (x4 mode black) on the end, which I have no idea what this means. My Graphics card is currently in the PCI Express 2.0 x 16 slot, and I am looking to upgrade.

This: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OS8UM2/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3NZU4CU5W041E is the card I am looking into grabbing. It's cheap, and an upgrade without me requiring a new Mobo, PSU and OEM of Win7 to hook up.

My question: What is the difference between a 2gb card with 48 Cores and a 4 gb card with 96 cores? (info from http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3SD2S91669&cm_re=Inno3D_nVidia-_-9SIA3SD2S91669-_-Product as the amazon.com page lacks this for the latter)

I'll be using my computer for a home business running a 3d Virtual Tabletop that is in development currently being built using Unity. I've been told the demands shouldn't be *that* high, but I won't know the actual requirements for several months. I am running a dual monitor setup on the single card currently, a BenQ 27" and a AOC 21" side by side. I'll be processing text via Chrome on the smaller monitor, multiple tabs open and being cycled through, while running this new software via Steam at the same time.

For point of reference, my system keeps demanding I drop the color scheme to basic when I run Civilization 5 and have both monitors running currently with my ancient video card. I get roughly 40-50 FPS playing League of Legends on the lowest settings while I have Youtube running on the secondary monitor. To give you an idea of what I am coping with currently.

Would this be a wise investment for someone on a limited budget giving me a significant improvement? It's essentially, double the strength of my current card, looking at the math. However, I know nothing regarding this, and this could be an error in judgement on my part due to ignorance. Will I see only a like, 5% increase, instead of a 100% increase like the numbers suggest to me?

Am I better off gutting my system, replacing the motherboard going forward and getting a PCI E 3.0 card? Or waiting and making due for a couple more years until the next generation of Motherboards and cards are out? If I can make due with a 2.0 slot and a $100 card, I'd be content with that.

Thank you for your time, and if you have advice, input, anything for me, I'd love to hear it. Starting my home business and need my PC to work so looking at long term and short term options right now.

Edit: Caught some related threads. Is it true I can toss a PCI-E 3.0 x16 card into my PCI-E 2.0 X16 slot with little to no effect on performance or hardware issues? If so, suggestions for a card for my setup would be awesome. Running Win7 64 Bit with 16 gigs of RAM and 4.5 TB of hard drive space across 3 drives in addition to the info listed above, if that matters. I have a 650 watt PSU as mentioned, and my CPU only eats 125 Watts, with the Drives bumping the usage to just under 160 at max load, plus the various other stuff I have going. Wireless networking card, external USB sound card, and an external hard drive enclosure I plug in when backing up files.
 

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Thanks, called Asus to make sure that is true with my particular motherboard and got the same response.

I am looking into this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127884

Relatively Cheap, 4gb card with a single slot, all of the great cards out there are Dual Slot cards that I can't use. :( On the plus side, might need to hook up 3 monitors in the near future to the single card, and this one will actually support this. Has anyone had any experience with card, good or bad that I could get info on?
 

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What do you mean by single slot card? That looks like it takes up two slots to me (one physical PCI-E slot, another consumed in space by the cooler (dual slot bracket when you scew it into the case).

Its a good card for the money.
 

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Space I'm not worried about. Just can't have it need dual PCI E slots, as I only have the one. Are the others that are listed as Dual Slot cards just listed due to the space requirement then? IE, they only use on PCI E slot on the MoBo but are wide enough to cover the next one to it?
 

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exactly, no card actually uses two PCI-E slots on the motherboard, just two slots in terms of size in the case.
 

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In your position, I would go for a GTX 970, assuming you have the budget.


edit: Scratch that, just noticed you are playing League of legends and Civ 5. You could go for the cheaper gtx 960 or the R9 380 and still have more than enough power.
 

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125706 This one?

Care to share why you suggest that? I *can*, but it involves me charging it and paying it off over the course of 4 months, instead of 2 with the $180 card I was looking into. My thought was, if my 2.0 slot is going to reduce efficiency at all, keeping it lower end will nix that. It looks like a great card, but seeing a bunch of people complain about faulty cards. If not that one, then which, and same, why? Will I see a significant difference over http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127884&Tpk=N82E16814127884 ?
 

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Purely based on what games you are playing. The GTX 970 would potentially be overkill (brilliant card), league for example doesnt require much GPU horsepower, so you can get away with a nice mid range or even lower card and still run max settings.
 

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Both perform similarly, so if you have no preference to AMD or Nvidia then The R9 380 is usually the cheaper option.

A 4gb version would be better for longevity as games are starting to want more and more vram, but you may pay a small premium over a 2gb version.
 

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Oooh, that is a nice one. Thanks, yeah I am not sure what the system requirements will be for my software I am waiting on. What it starts out as, and what it ends up as might be two different beasts in a year or so. With that in mind, I may wait to see what the beta test performs like. If I can wait until Cyber Monday for a sweet deal on one of these cards that might be the best way to go.

Really appreciate your help today man. Gives me perspective and some answers, thanks.