Looking to build my very first 'experimental' gaming PC

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Hello all!

I am very new to all this and have only just gotten an interest in building my own PC just a couple weeks ago. After many Google searches, forum reading and guide watching I've found this site to be the most interesting and detailed about PC specs so I figured to invest some time and interest here. Anyway, that's besides the point, I'm posting here because (I guess as we all do on our first go) I only have an idea of what to build, not entirely sure on the how or whether the pieces will fit together, and I have many concerns/questions about building/upgrading.
For now I have the following details (mostly) nailed down.

Approximate Purchase Date: Maybe Christmas 2015 at the latest?

Budget Range: In theory it's about $AU 1000-$1200 tops (including postage), in reality I have more in total to spend but as this will be my very first build I'm worried I'll break something or screw something up in the process so I'm not planning on spending my entire savings just in case.

System Usage: It's main purpose will be as a gaming PC, yes I will be surfing the internet and watching movies on it, but I want this to be something I can upgrade whenever I want. This is mainly going to be my little experiment, I am incredibly curious to see if I have what it takes to build and upgrade my very own PC.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts I intend on purchasing:

Case: Thermaltake Black Commander MS-III Mid Tower Case - $65
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=19881&cPath=547

Motherboard: Z97I-Gaming ACK Mini ITX -$249
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=31534&cPath=1019

CPU: Intel Pentium Anniversary Edition G3258 -$89
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28018&cPath=1490

RAM: G.Skill Sniper F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 -$89
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23688&cPath=912

PSU: Silverstone Strider Essential ST50F-ES230 500W -$59
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29871&cPath=535

GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 750 Ti Strix 2GB -$200
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=28477&cPath=876

SSD: Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB -$165
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30448&cPath=909

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB 24x DVDRW OEM -$19
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23679&cPath=667

Do you need to buy OS: Yes, Microsoft Windows 8.1 64bit OEM -$135
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=25441&cPath=974

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: You may have noticed every link is to PCCaseGear. The reason for this is (in my experience) they are the only Australian retailer of PC parts that have always delivered and answered any queries quickly. I am yet to find another such site that I can trust.

Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Parts Preferences:
Case: No preference
Motherboard: Intel Z97 Express
CPU: Intel
RAM: No preference
PSU: No preference
GPU: Nvidia
SSD: Samsung
Optical Drive: Samsung

Overclocking: I'll say maybe, currently uninterested but it's likely I'll experiment with it later on.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe SLI eventually, although it is not a requirement as this will be my first build.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2560x1440

Additional Comments:
I have never done this before.
I should note that everything is listed in $AU prices, not $U.S (this is why parts may seem to be more expensive than they really are). If it means anything I would 'prefer' if I were able to (in THEORY, not necessarily for the latest games!) run games in 2K, at 120Hz and in 3D. Thus i probably need something that supports Display Ports. This is the end goal so I want to build a PC that I can upgrade whenever I want, however I do not want to buy the best, most expensive parts right away in case I break something. This is why the parts I have chosen aren't the best and were actually based off the 'best value for money' pages on this site! I went for the cheapest sections because I'm paranoid something will go wrong and I'd much rather have accidents with cheap hardware rather than expensive hardware that slaps me in the face with a $300 replacement (hope that makes sense). I am also obsessed with the idea of 'starting from the bottom' and slowly upgrading it to the sexiest PC out. Don't ask me why. :)

I should add that I chose a Mini ITX for the sake of cable management. I know I'll have tons of room in the case and this is on purpose, I want to get a feel for building first before I move up to, say, an ASRock Z97 Extreme9. As for hard drives I have intentionally chosen a small SSD as I only need the OS and a game or two to make sure everything goes to plan. Later when everything (hopefully) works I'll go about getting a large standard hard drive for data storage. But this is like the very last thing I'll be buying.

Eventually I want to upgrade to the latest and greatest hardware once I'm confident I'll be able to piece it together without breaking anything. I am planning on upgrading every single component of this experimental PC build at some point in the future, probably to the point that I'll effectively end up with 2 PCs.

Now because this will be my very first build, I have been reading around but (as every newbie asks) my main question is:

Will all the above parts communicate properly? (ie, are they compatible?)

Another important thing for me is:

Will I be able to upgrade every component at some stage?

What should I look out for? Such as CPU coolers, once installed can they easily be removed? I've read about thermal paste for example and I've gotten the impression that once a CPU is installed it cannot be removed (which doesn't sound right). Or the way motherboards change their chipsets, will I be able to simply buy a new motherboard and a new respective Intel CPU (when they inevitably change the chipset) and simply remove the rest of the components and plug them into the new motherboard?
I'm not entirely sure what to do with these topics, I want to be sure that, if need be, I can upgrade any piece of this build as I get more confident with handling more expensive parts.

Why Are You Building: This is a learning experience for me. I want to learn how to build my own PC, maintain it and upgrade it whenever I can. I don't learn very well from reading alone or watching videos, they give me a general idea but leave me with some confusions such as the ones listed above. Thus I have to be physically doing it myself to learn best so I guess I'm here to learn!

I hope you guys will be able to help a newbie out, as I'm currently still a bit confused. If there's any information I've accidentally left out or you would like to know please let me know!
 
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Looks good for a budget build, good value for money. Don't be fooled by the word 'gaming' in that motherboard though, you wouldn't even notice the difference between that and a regular motherboard in games. I'd get a cheaper ATX board. The size of the motherboard isn't really going to affect cable management much, space in the case to put the cables is the main concern. Some cases have space behind the motherboard tray for example.

CPU's can be removed, so can coolers. You just need to put some new thermal paste on each time but it is relatively cheap and easy.

All of those parts can be upgraded over time but some require another part to be upgraded too. For example if you wanted to upgrade the CPU to another in a few years when there...

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If you are looking into playing modern games on 2k resolution, you might want to reconsider this build.
For example, you'll be able to play far cry on 1080p med/high, Assassins creed med/high etc, with a stable fps on 60-70. And that is only on 1080p.
And to fully benefit your 120hz monitor, you'd probably want to get at least a 770GTX.
But i'd recommend a much better system that, which i could show you, if you gave me your final budget.
I know it's your first build, but my advice is that you might want your first build to be something you'd be happy about and not having to upgrade within the years to come. I did the same mistake when i started my first build, i already upgraded after 5 months, basically i re-built it all and i couldn't really use the old parts for anything.
 

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Thanks for your reply!

The best part is I'm a retro gamer who's never experienced the PC side of things, thus I'm looking forward to playing through the last 20 years of PC games that I have missed (due to not owning a gaming PC) on my ASUS ROG PG278Q monitor with a machine I can call my own :) I'm pretty sure I'd be able to comfortably play games such as the original Quake, Unreal Tournament and Half Life at 120 fps and/or in 2K and/or in 3D (wherever supported) so there's no need to worry about running anything made in the last 8 years or so.

I'll leave my budget at $AU 1,100, I should probably leave the rest of my money for buying the large list of PC games I've never played :)
 

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Those games will without a doubt run at at least 120 fps! :D
Though if you're willing to throw in 100$ AU in, you'd get a 960 gtx that runs much better than the 750ti.
Though your CPU will SLIGHTLY bottleneck CPU intensive games such as multiplayer games. (Bf4).
But if you're positive and want the build you've put together, then i'd say go for it!
But when you're thinking about upgrading in the future, start out with the GPU and CPU. The other components are not as crucial, since they're already decent.
 
Looks good for a budget build, good value for money. Don't be fooled by the word 'gaming' in that motherboard though, you wouldn't even notice the difference between that and a regular motherboard in games. I'd get a cheaper ATX board. The size of the motherboard isn't really going to affect cable management much, space in the case to put the cables is the main concern. Some cases have space behind the motherboard tray for example.

CPU's can be removed, so can coolers. You just need to put some new thermal paste on each time but it is relatively cheap and easy.

All of those parts can be upgraded over time but some require another part to be upgraded too. For example if you wanted to upgrade the CPU to another in a few years when there is a new socket, you will need a new motherboard (and maybe even new RAM if it is a DDR4 only board). Also if you upgraded both the CPU and GPU to something really high end like an i7 and GTX 980Ti, you may want to consider a more powerful PSU.
 
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Thank you for the insight, I'll keep that in mind :)