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right, it will be cheaper.
so are you going to have your input on the build or not, cause i didn't ask for your opinion.
 
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The Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 5 is twenty bucks more than it was two weeks ago, just as one example. Others may be more or less than that difference at any given point in time. The point is, it's pointless to configure a build unless you're close to your target purchase date because whatever you select stands a good chance of no longer being that price, raising the investment of your build, or other products may be much lower, but of equal quality, allowing you to save some money.

And just FYI, you did ask for my opinion since I'm a moderator on this forum, which is an open forum and when you post a question you're asking for answers from all other members, of which I am one. If you don't like my advice, ignore it, but most of the other members are going to give you similar advice if they have any common sense at all. I'm just saying you want to be a bit closer to your actual build date or products may be nowhere what you thought they'd be priced at, or even be out of stock or discontinued. Good luck either way.
 
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well i don't care much about the price, so could you give insight on the build, as i've stated previously. i don't care about the prices changing. especially if im getting ddr4.
 
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Well, I'd probably change the cooler to a Cryorig H5, which performs MUCH better, or even an H7 which still performs better and has a much better mounting system than the EVO. In fact, if you plan to overclock that processor I'd consider a MUCH higher end cooler, as the EVO is an entry level budget cooler and is very unlikely to be able to keep up with the thermal demands of that CPU when overclocked. Something like the Cryorig R1 ultimate, Noctua NH-D14 or D15 or even the NH-U14S, or one of the big Phanteks coolers would be a much better choice. If you don't plan to overclock it then the EVO should be fine.

Power supply is good, but overpriced for what you're getting. This would be a better choice, for less, and is a very reliable Super Flower built Leadex based unit:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($121.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $121.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-16 03:46 EDT-0400


I'd also swap that SSD out for a Samsung 850 EVO or PRO. The performance and reliability of the PNY units is pretty much not in the same league as the Samsung drives. The 850 has none of the issues that plagued the 840 EVO and is about the best unit out there right now.



 
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I'm looking to keep my system air-cooled, not water. I would love to get the best air cooling aftermarket cpu cooler that's compatible with lga 2011-v3. I'll check those that you have suggested if they are air cooled. Also, how much more would the 850 evo be? And yeah, I suppose I'll definitely go for the 850w. A little more overkill, but if its cheaper then might as well.
 
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Those are ALL air coolers I mentioned. Any of them would be a good choice, but I think currently the Noctua NH-D15 dual heatsink, dual fan cooler is the highest performing air cooler on the market, and without sounding like a jet airplane, that I'm aware of.

The Cryorig R1 Ultimate and/or Universal are a close second. That's a 140w chip though, so if you plan a large overclock I'd recommend you also plan for an equally large cooler, or a 280mm liquid cooler. Custom loop would be better, but a closed loop 280mm cooler should allow a fairly high enterprise.

If you decide you DON'T want to overclock the CPU, the either the 212 EVO or Cryorig H7 or H5 would be fine.

The 850 EVO is here:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.95 @ OutletPC)
Total: $97.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-16 13:18 EDT-0400


The EVGA G2 series power supply is bigger, but it also gives you plenty of headroom in the even that you add a second GPU card later for SLI and will still have some headroom beyond what SLI requires for the purpose of both covering SLI demands and allowing the system to still run cooler and more specifically centered in it's efficiency zone. Units that barely cover required capacity tend to run hotter since they're usually running at or near max capacity under a full load, louder, since the fans have to work harder to keep the unit cool and are likely to have a shorter lifespan due to both those things.

You would need to go MUCH larger than your system needs to consider it overkill, and even then it's not necessarily a bad thing, just unnecessary. A 750w unit would be enough for GTX 970 SLI or GTX 970 with an overclocked CPU, but 850w would be better, especially considering the overclocking potential if you do overclock the CPU, GPU or both.

 
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I only plan to overclock it to 4 ghz. All I'm wondering is will the noctua work in my case, or should I just go the Cryorig R1 Ultimate?
 
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Either one will fit, easily. The case supports coolers up to 180mm tall. The R1 Ultimate is 168mm and the NH-D15 is 165mm, both with fan attached. I'd go with the Noctua as it's a slightly quieter unit but both are excellent and you can't go wrong either way. If you don't like the Noctua's brown fans, the Cryorig color scheme might be more to your tastes.
 
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That's okay, I love to hear my computer.
the Cryorig seems to be the one for me. Since my color scheme is black/red and its black, I think it will fit nicely. Now will it cover up any of the 8 ram slots on the board? It is a ddr4 quad channel board, which I plan to utilize more in the future.
Also what would the temp differences be from the Cryorig to the hyper 212 evo?
 
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All high end coolers have RAM clearance issues with DDR4 boards that use tall RAM. Just don't use tall heat spreaders and it should be fine.

There are no direct comparisons between that unit and the 212 EVO, and Frostytech has not benchmarked any Cryorig units yet despite attempts to get them to do so, so I can't offer you anything concrete, but I'd feel pretty comfortable saying there's likely at least a 10°C different under peak load, and probably much more than that. Since the unit is offset, clearance issues are generally only with the rear DIMM slots. Low profile modules should solve the issue if you upgrade later.
 
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I'll look into the RAM clearance issue further and see what other coolers shake out that might have better clearance for the rear modules. I'd think that using four 16GB modules in the front slots, or even just two, would be more than anybody not running insanely complex layered 3D image processing or CAD software, or seriously demanding VM's could possibly need.


Sure you're not trolling? Starting to sound like it. For somebody without a job, this is beginning to become unrealistic.
 
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Um, no I'm not trolling. And for someone without a job who's getting one soon, its becoming very realistic and very cheap. I'm 16 which means I get to keep my whole paycheck at the end of the week, and it would be quite easy for me to save up.
And besides, what I mean by "upgrading" my RAM in the future, I mean like far into the future where we somehow surpass the use of 16gb DDR4.
 
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I realize, and I was just saying, IF I ever needed to use that much ram. But its highly unlikely that I'll need more then 16gb, if I do its because I might run a dedicated minecraft server, but thats unlikely as well.
 
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By the time that day comes, I'm sure there'll be a plethora of cooler options for that configuration. Or, even a liquid cooling solution would solve the issue entirely. This cooler that was introduced at Computex is interesting as well. It has features of both liquid and air cooled configurations. I'm sure a more mature version will be coming before long and I have not data on how effective it is, but it's something I'd been thinking about trying to cobble together for a long time:


http://www.cryorig.com/news.php?id=45

 
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