Buy Haswell-R now or wait for Skylake

How long do you want to wait?
http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/16/intel-skylake-chips-delayed/
http://online.barrons.com/articles/intel-may-delay-skylake-to-q4-1436782819
http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Intels+New+Skylake+Chips+May+Be+Slipping+Later+in+2015/article37165.htm

well skylake isn't here yet so I cant talk about price or performance on that platform. But if your going to do entry level editing and or streaming the 4790k will be good for that and is the flagship of the 4 core/8 thread chips. if you are going to be doing tons of streaming, video editing, and movie making more cores would be more to the liking. But will probably be pricey.. as for the waiting part. Don't wait... something better will always be coming out. BUY IT ENJOY IT. I am speaking from experience of waiting . it sucks because right when skylake will be soon to come out something else be nearly to come out then you may want to wait for that.. WE CALL THAT AN ENDLESS LOOP....

If you look at the gaps, lga775 to 1155/56, lga 1155 to 1150 etc, performance % isn't all that great, talking roughly 15-20% at best. But thats not the whole story. What really matters is what can be done with that performance. You can OC my q6600 upto 3.2, and on paper, it should perform pretty equally to my 3570k, one ddr2, one ddr3, both quad core, both Intel etc yet my q6600 isn't the same as my 3570k minus 15%. It's the additional cache. It's the faster BCLK, its the faster ram (1066 vrs 2133), its the additional instruction sets, better architecture, legacy vrs uefi bios and on and on.

If you can wait, I'd do so, lga1150 will be good for some years yet and after Skylake becomes retail, prices will probably drop as ppl try to clear shelving for new stock. And there's always Black Friday.

i disagree with corndog. it's supposedly a whole new architecture from what i read. it's worth waiting for, just to see what it holds. that's what i'm doing... plus he said it's doable. while your partly right about something always new coming out, but this one i would wait for. in this case, it doesn't really hold true. what if they give it a massive performance gain? then he would regret buying haswell.

while there appears to be no benchmarks or anything, it probably will live up to the hype that i read. either way, it's worth waiting for just to see the performance numbers.

i just don't want to give you the wrong impression.

also, isn't the new cpu's just a souped up pentium 3? i'm not putting that in stone, but that's my impression. this is a whole new architecture again...

but yeah, i think most people are waiting to see what skylake holds, should be interesting none the less.

that's what I was saying....thanx man

maybe he didn't see my post... anyways, a new architecture is not always a new thing. we been on pentium 3's for a while now. and i refuse to buy that piece of garbage... how many years has it been since they revamped the pentium 3's anyway?

you know, when you've seen dual core penitum 3 for your e5200, you can't help but notice a bad taste in your mouth.

Not quite sure what a 15 year old CPU architecture has to do with anything.

the question is:

"I heard Skylake was coming close and closer and now i'm not sure if i should just go ahead and buy the parts to upgrade or wait for Skylake to come out, i don't exactly have a high income so spending 600-700 euro is a lot for me.

answer: buy it now if it fits your needs cause you don't know whats coming out and what its specs will be or what it will cost and there is no guarantee 4790k price will drop. haswell refresh and skylake are two different platforms and don't compete with each other.

usafret, i3, i5 i7 is pentium 3 architecture, what are you talking about?

lets calm it down a bit......

lets just answer his question....

Pentium 3. 32bit from 1999.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_III

dude, that's what a i3, i5 i7 is, it's a revamped pentium 3. i have no idea where you going with this...

let me put it in simple terms, they took the pentium 3, added stuff to it, kept the same architecture, and called it i3, i5, i7. i don't know how simple this has to be.

and going back to the person's question, i already answered it. it's worth to see what it holds, cause it's not going to be pentium 3 architecture anymore, it's totally new. i already said this. corn, idk where your going with that either, it's already been answered.

we haven't had a new architecture in a while. plain and simple.

ok. I understand your point and now the op has your point and mine. it is ultimately up to him and how he feels he should procede. I just think the tone of this thread is getting to be argumentative. good luck in your decision...my opinion is buy it now your opinion is wait. neither is wrong......

You go on wit yo bad self.
No new architecture, dating back to the 32bit Pentium III. A current i7-4960k @ 3.6Ghz is functionally the same as a 300Mhz Pentium III, just a bit faster, and more 'stuff''. OK.
But the next one....that one is going to be different!

I could put this in even simpler terms. But I won't.

And I believe the fx series was considered new architecture, different than the fm for sure, and, well, everyone knows how Bulldozers turned out.

No offense intended to the forum in general, or it's guidelines, but you might possibly be the stupidest, most full of fail individual I've seen on these forums yet. Well, it might be a tie for second with another guy who thought there were 7 core processors, but it's a pretty close race. I think you should do some intense reading for the next month or so, so you can get a more actual grasp of the current PC hardware basic tenets, most especially in the area of processing units, and then come back and try again.

OR, if you're a troll, crawl back into your cave and stop trying to mislead people or destroy their brain cells with your nonsense.

actually the new pentium 3 architecture or some time about that crushed the pentium 4. which was basically the core 2 duo. and your telling me there won't be a nice performance gain? oh please. give me a break will you?

the adjunct, your talking about yourself right? you've given no data to support anything you said, then you want to troll at the same time. nobody said anything that angry until your comment. come back when you've thought of something worthwhile before you comment. and another thing, nobody directed anything at you, so why are you so mad and offended, what i stated was facts. also, saying i was misleading is totally irrational, again, i stated all FACTS. where did i say he HAD TO WAIT? i was simply giving him a layout of facts, and he can make his own determination from there. again, mines was all facts, your just trolling, so move along unless you have something constructive to say, which you don't cause i already mentioned all the facts and speculation.

corn, i stated facts not opinion. i don't have any opinions about computers, simply facts.

so let me break it down to you make it more simple usafret, the architecture around conroe, simply crushed the pentium 4, this is a fact, and we haven't had an architecture change since then, after the pentium 4, was the pentium 3 architecture revised. so now, about a long while later, i don't know how long it's been, what 9 years? i'm just guessing, we finally get a new architecture. so using speculation in intel's past, it's probably going to be a nice performance gain.

it seems to me you guys are offended by my knowledge and facts. that's understandable, cause learning can be a hard lesson to learn, that it can.

and don't add amd in here, amd has nothing to do with how intel is doing business, that's not comparing apples to apples here.

but to be blunt, i think you guys just don't know your architectures and facts about processors. like i said, what you said was false people. all of you, core 2 duo crushed the pentium 4. FACT. and adjunct is making me laugh cause i probably taught him something along the way in this thread.

anyways, see you later people.

Dude, when you're already in a hole....stop digging.

So you claim to "know your facts" - where do these "facts" come from? Either site sources or we're calling BS, plain and smiple.

skywere - do you have sufficient info to move forward? If so, I'm closing this before it gets any sillier.

While I think the original question is a valid one, I believe it's not really the right one. A move from the older, weaker i5 and 6Gb of ram to a cpu like the 4790k and 16Gb of ram will show at least @50% performance difference in anything, and with some things like video editing, streaming, and the multi-core optimized games that's going to be closer to @100% performance increase. And that's just a Haswell-R. That's the minimum increase. If Skylake delivers as promised, that increase could be higher, maybe 20-30% higher. In those terms, the difference is inconsequential. The move itself will be large enough of a difference that anything extra is just a bonus.

Would I wait? Yes, because my 3570k/16Gb is more than enough to do what I need, right now. Considering what performance gains you are facing, vrs your needs right now, the question shouldn't be 'should I move?', the question should be asked of yourself 'just how important is the move, to me, right now? If you can live with what you have until Skylake is available, then wait, if it doesn't live up to the hype, the 4790k will still be here, and if it does, bonus! If you can live with the wait. If you cannot, then have no regrets and get your build, now. Either way, you'll not be disappointed with the results.