low-ish budget gaming build

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Hey guys,

Was asked by my brother in law to build him a under 700 euro gaming pc, to be honnest ... I'm not used to working with such a limit but I think/hope I got something nice together.
I'm not asking for advice on prices seeing as I'm from Europe (mainland) and will have different prices than you guys, I'm just looking on advice for the parts. Thank you!

MSI GTX 960 GAMING 2G
Intel® Core™ i3-4160
Antec VPF Bronze 350W
Zalman ZM-Z1
Crucial BX100 - 250
MSI H81M-P33
Kingston ValueRAM 2x4 DDR3-1600


Thank you very much!
 
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Just change the PSU to a 450W+ unit. Made by Antec, Seasonic, Superflower, XFX, etc.. XFX has a 450W PSU that would work very well with this budget.

Also, I'm not sure if 250GB will be enough for OS + drivers + games.

As for the motherboard, there is no guarantee that the 4160 will post on that board without a BIOS update. And I also wouldn't depend on an MSI board either. (Gigabyte is best for budget boards). If you have access to it, the H81 DS2V is a great board which will most likely run the 4160. (Personally have that board with a 4150 running on it).
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Just change the PSU to a 450W+ unit. Made by Antec, Seasonic, Superflower, XFX, etc.. XFX has a 450W PSU that would work very well with this budget.

Also, I'm not sure if 250GB will be enough for OS + drivers + games.

As for the motherboard, there is no guarantee that the 4160 will post on that board without a BIOS update. And I also wouldn't depend on an MSI board either. (Gigabyte is best for budget boards). If you have access to it, the H81 DS2V is a great board which will most likely run the 4160. (Personally have that board with a 4150 running on it).
 
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I apologize if i linked the wrong price. i had just posted a response to another thread from the same area and the guy asked that i use that site for pricing as it was the correct one. so i just edited that build to fit this post. if you can link me a better site to use or give me the conversion ill adjust it accordingly.

again i am sorry if i am an ignorant American. (self admitted)




 
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Thanks alot for all the answers here guys.

So yeah, I mentioned mainland Europe because it's not the UK :) I'm actually from Belgium (and am disapointed in the high prices for hardware atm)



I was thinking 450W PSU myself but did a calculator and it said I was good with 320, it's only 10 euro or so difference so that's ok for me.
Well he has 1 HD which is older that he can use for storage. Personally I also have a 250gb ssd and I found that it keeps me clean without annoying me. So I can install a good number of games but when I have to much installed I'll end up with a full disk, works for me!
The motherboard is an issue, for some reason I can't find any budget gigabyte motherboards in my usual shops. Any other ideas or why would you not be sure that the MSI board supports the CPU?

thanks for all the answers guys.

 
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Never use a PSU calculator. When using a GPU, follow this:

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm


That will help you determine the minimum PSU wattage you need. Remember that if you don't follow the minimum requirement, you will void the warranty. And with the link above, it needs to be a quality PSU. Preferably from Antec, Seasonic, Superflower, or XFX. There are other good PSU's out there but there are practically no good ones in the low-wattage-area of the market.

As for the motherboard you linked, yes, that one would be great. Just as a general rule of thumb, avoid MSI for motherboards. They have poor quality assurance compared to Asus, and Gigabyte. And always avoid boards made by Foxconn and Biostar. As for ASRock, they make great mid-range boards.

Anyways.. Back to what is relevant. Yes, that motherboard would do great.

It isn't the fact that the MSI board won't support the CPU. It's just that the chipset on these low end boards (like the S2H and the MSI one) is an old chipset. That means that it is a gamble if the motherboard you will get will be able to run without needing a BIOS update. Sometimes it will run with no problems, other times it will turn off and on a couple times and then post, and other times it won't turn on at all. Both of those issues can be fixed with a BIOS update. How do you get a BIOS update? Well that's the problem.. The computer needs to be on for that. Which means you:

A. Get a CPU which is older to run it for a little bit, get the BIOS update, and then change the CPU.
or
B. Get a different motherboard.

How do you avoid this all together? Get a motherboard with an H97 chipset.

I know this is all confusing.. So please feel free to ask any questions! :D
 
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https://www.alternate.be/Kingston-HyperX/8-GB-DDR3-1866-Werkgeheugen/html/product/1134014?
https://www.alternate.be/GIGABYTE/GA-Z97M-DS3H-Moederbord/html/product/1139661?
https://www.alternate.be/MSI/GTX-960-2GD5T-OC-Grafische-kaart/html/product/1179975?
https://www.alternate.be/Crucial/BX100-120-GB-SSD/html/product/1179483?
https://www.alternate.be/XFX/PRO550W-Core-Edition-Voeding-/html/product/838244?
https://www.alternate.be/Sharkoon/VS4-S-Behuizing/html/product/1133024?
 
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