Is This a Functional, Powerful Build for the $1-1.2k Range?

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Alright since I've seen some very knowledgeable people on this forum (more so than I, no doubt), I would like to ask if this is a good deal for a gaming PC that will be able to run Battlefield, League of Legends, For Honour (coming release) and Wildlands (Ghost Recon, coming release) as well as other large map or open world FPS games and MOBA's at at least 40 fps and medium graphics requirements (these could suffer to maintain fps ^.^). I would likely upgrade the RAM to 16 GB soon and look into a higher end graphics card for later on. My biggest concern is with the 350 W power supply and whether it will be able to support a more powerful graphics card together with the i7 processor.

Other than run the video games mentioned and those similar effectively, I would not be using the computer for much else other than very basic internet (e-mail, youtube).
Also, I am not a fan of overclocking (maybe just superstition, but I do not think it is necessary to poll components at rates more than they are intended to normally run at), so I'm not usually keen on builds that require overclocking.

Here is the build: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229495

I apologize if anything I said was nooby or just completely incorrect. Like I said, I am certainly no master of the PC world and there is plenty of room for my misunderstandings in all that text.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and even more thanks for your response. :)
 
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Lol... This prebuilt PC is the WORST thing I've f****** seen. VERY VERY BAD GPU FOR THIS PRICE!! Don't EVEN EXPECT that computer to run LoL, BF, and any other game at even 1080P. It can barely handle BF3, Medium settings, 720P, at like 30 FPS. And Battlefield 3 is soft!
Also, 350W isn't handling any i7 at all!!!

Build your own.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.95 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1200.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-20 01:42 EDT-0400
 
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No that is a horrible build for $1200. You have a low wattage PSU that can't support current graphics cards, a ridiculous overkill case, and a very low budget GPU. It also has a garbage Apevia case and a no name power supply (if they don't tell you the manufacturer, don't buy it). You can get much better for the price if you build your own:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($286.50 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($179.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($73.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($416.80 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($114.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer
Total: $1308.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-20 01:53 EDT-0400
 
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Here's an option if you don't want to overclock the CPU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.25 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($398.39 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT H2 Classic Silent (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.04 @ shopRBC)
Total: $1067.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-20 02:10 EDT-0400

It will max out most AAA games easily at 1080p.
 
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This build seems like the best option for me at the moment due to the price range, but is it possible to upgrade the CPU to an i5-4690 to get that 3.5GHz over the 3.2GHz. Like will that work with this motherboard? Thanks :)
 
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Is there any way to save a bit of money here to pull back the price just a bit, without compromising the quality? For example, slightly cheaper storage?

Also, what is your opinion on the AMD FirePro graphics card, is it a good buy and would it function in this PC or RazerZ PC as well or better than the graphics cards currently selected for each build? Here is the one I'm looking at AMD FirePro W5100 100-505737 4GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Workstation V ($439.99 @ ebay)
 
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Thanks for the build :) At the moment, I am unlikely to go with that one just because of the price off the bat. If there is a way of bringing it down $100 without compromising the quality of the PC too much that would be awesome?! For example removing the optical drive as I won't be using it at all really. Perhaps the motherboard could be brought down in price? I'm not sure exactly what can be brought down in price without too much of an effect, but if you can lower the price by even just a bit, that would be awesome. The more options the better!

 
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It's possible, but would be a waste of money to spend $40 more just to have a slight increase in clock speed. If you are going for numbers you'll need to spend "big" and go a route like the builds posted above with a good motherboard, unlocked CPU, and aftermarket cooler. Gaming wise you usually can't tell the difference b/t any of the Haswell i5s, overclocked or not.
 
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Alright, thank you so much for your help, good to know that going past your build by just a little bit is not going to be a very noticeable change.
Also I might as well ask you a final question, no hurt I guess. Is upgrading the graphics card to an AMD FirePro W5100 100-505737 4GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Workstation V ($439.99 @ ebay) going to be of any use or the same situation as just upgrading the CPU. If I upgraded both would it be worth it? Thanks again for all your help.

Sorry and one final question, are no coolers necessary for this build?
 
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The W5100 is as good as a R7 260X (equivalent specs), so it's no go.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($286.50 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($179.98 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($68.95 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card ($304.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($83.00 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($54.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1209.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-20 10:23 EDT-0400
 
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No, it's a workstation card and is not designed for gaming. For the price it will be a poor choice for your uses. There are much better gaming cards out there for the same price. I would stick with the GTX 970 I posted it will max out your games.
 
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+1 to this build. You seem keen on being against overclocking, and it would be a waste to spend on a -K processor and Z97 board. My only suggestion is to maybe get a slightly bigger wattage PSU.

@g-unit1111- Hey! I don't know if you remember me, but I remember you from 2 years ago! :)
 
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Yeah it's been a while!

Thanks for the build :) At the moment, I am unlikely to go with that one just because of the price off the bat. If there is a way of bringing it down $100 without compromising the quality of the PC too much that would be awesome?! For example removing the optical drive as I won't be using it at all really. Perhaps the motherboard could be brought down in price? I'm not sure exactly what can be brought down in price without too much of an effect, but if you can lower the price by even just a bit, that would be awesome. The more options the better!
Click to expand...

Yeah the tricky thing is that Canada prices are quite a bit different from US prices. In the US this would be about the equivalent of a $1200 build.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/G2Nqf7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/G2Nqf7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($216.25 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($122.01 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($416.80 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT H2 Classic Silent (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($114.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit) ($109.98 @ DirectCanada)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($66.50 @ Vuugo)
Total: $1302.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-20 11:17 EDT-0400

Ok so this is a build I've come up with by compiling everyone's ideas. It includes the price of the OS (Windows 7) and a sound card – I thought sound cards were necessary, if this is not the case, please let me know.
The main differences from the norm in this build are the lack of SSD and the increased DDR3.
If anyone sees a major flaw with this build (compatibility, poor part, etc) please let me know otherwise, I think I will go with this one :)
 
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Yeah the forum change over took a huge toll but they got (hopefully most of) all the bugs out so it should be good.
 
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That looks good to me. The DSX soundcard has an imrpoved DAC/amp compared to the integrated motherboard audio chipset and has virtual surround sound. This may or may not be beneficial depending on your audio setup.
 
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