Can an i5 4690k be overclocked to the performance of a Xeon 1231 V3?

TheGamingKiwi · Jul 22, 2015

Hi guys,
I have a quick question. I'm tossing up between the Xeon 1231 v3 and i5 4690k. I may be doing light to medium rendering, so that is why I'm considering the Xeon, not the overpriced I7's. My question id could the i5 be overclocked to around the Xeon's performance? If I could get it to 4.5 gigs, would it be fairly close?
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smorizio · Jul 22, 2015

depends on the cpu itself and how it binned. also the cooler you use and the voltage needed to keep it stable.

TheGamingKiwi · Jul 22, 2015

smorizio :

So in theory it could?

smorizio · Jul 22, 2015

cpu can be overclocked but it depends on a few things to see how high you can push it. i never done it but it depends mostly on how stable the cpu is before it hits the max core voltage that intel spec out for there cpu chips.

guanyu210379 · Jul 22, 2015

OC is both depending on luck and the cooling solution.
If you get a really good chip, you can really push the OC really high even without increasing the core voltage.
If you are unlucky, well...the other way around.

HT can not be replaced by OC.
For rendering, I would prefer to have more thread than OC

Montblanchill · Jul 22, 2015

Depends - if your rendering program can make use of up to 8 threads, then it is unlikely that the i5 will ever be able to catch up with the Xeon.

The i5 may actually be faster, in situations that use 4 or less threads, since it will likely have a higher clock rate and that is the difference maker between what are essentially identical cores in both chips. Other than that, the only other real difference may come down to instruction sets.

synphul · Jul 22, 2015

There are very few cases where an overclocked i5 can't meet or beat the performance of a ht enabled xeon. The xeon 1231v3 is equal to a 4770/4770k (stock).

In these benchmarks, winrar was the only test where the 4690k fell behind even when oc'd. The oc'd i5 (to a modest 4.4ghz oc) beat the 4770k stock in x.265 conversion, tied the 4770k for x.264 conversion, scored slightly higher than the 4770k in webxprt, performed better than the 4770k in premiere pro cc2014, much better in lightroom, photoshop cc2014, 3dsmax 2015.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-4790k-i5-4690k_6.html

So yes, in many instances ht can be replaced or bested by clock speed. If it didn't, intel wouldn't charge more for the faster i7 than they do the xeon 1231v3 and they wouldn't have improved the 4790k over the 4790 by adding more clock speed if it made no difference. Ht can help but it's not a golden ticket all on its own and pairs nicely with higher speed and/or unlocked cpus like the 4790k, 5820k etc.

It's true that not all i5's are great overclockers, but the difference between a mediocre overclocking chip and a great one is typically 4.4ghz vs 4.7/4.8ghz. Aside from intel vpro (security features for enterprise type situations) and intel's fast memory access, that particular xeon doesn't have any more instructions than the 4690k. It's not the xeon that made the xeon name famous. It does have ecc memory support, though unless you plan to pay about 40% more for ecc ram and more than a high quality z97 motherboard for one that supports ecc, that feature is of little use.

Considering a low end budget xeon is able to keep pace with a high end i5, it does show the potential of the xeon lineup. Unfortunately, it's exactly that - a high end i5 vs a budget xeon. It's the second to lowest performing xeon in the e3 v3 lineup.

TheGamingKiwi · Jul 23, 2015

synphul :

There are very few cases where an overclocked i5 can't meet or beat the performance of a ht enabled xeon. The xeon 1231v3 is equal to a 4770/4770k (stock).

In these benchmarks, winrar was the only test where the 4690k fell behind even when oc'd. The oc'd i5 (to a modest 4.4ghz oc) beat the 4770k stock in x.265 conversion, tied the 4770k for x.264 conversion, scored slightly higher than the 4770k in webxprt, performed better than the 4770k in premiere pro cc2014, much better in lightroom, photoshop cc2014, 3dsmax 2015.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-4790k-i5-4690k_6.html

So yes, in many instances ht can be replaced or bested by clock speed. If it didn't, intel wouldn't charge more for the faster i7 than they do the xeon 1231v3 and they wouldn't have improved the 4790k over the 4790 by adding more clock speed if it made no difference. Ht can help but it's not a golden ticket all on its own and pairs nicely with higher speed and/or unlocked cpus like the 4790k, 5820k etc.

It's true that not all i5's are great overclockers, but the difference between a mediocre overclocking chip and a great one is typically 4.4ghz vs 4.7/4.8ghz. Aside from intel vpro (security features for enterprise type situations) and intel's fast memory access, that particular xeon doesn't have any more instructions than the 4690k. It's not the xeon that made the xeon name famous. It does have ecc memory support, though unless you plan to pay about 40% more for ecc ram and more than a high quality z97 motherboard for one that supports ecc, that feature is of little use.

Considering a low end budget xeon is able to keep pace with a high end i5, it does show the potential of the xeon lineup. Unfortunately, it's exactly that - a high end i5 vs a budget xeon. It's the second to lowest performing xeon in the e3 v3 lineup.

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