my transcend storejet 25M3 is not working

prasanagrawal

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Hello, i am using transcend storejet 25M3 external hardisk. when i connect it to my pc i can hear the harddisk running sound but, its activity indicator light is also not flashing and its not showing up in my computer disk mgmt and device manager. i have tried plugging it in other usb ports but the problem is still the same.
 
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Yes, you CAN use a USB3 device (including a hub) on a USB2 port. The new system was designed for backwards compatibility with the older one, BUT you do not get the main advantages of 3 over 2.

USB3 has two main advances over USB2.

1. MUCH faster data transfers. This is accomplished by using more data transfer wires in the cables and connectors and more advanced communications systems. But when you connect a device to a port the first thing done is for the USB controllers on each end to negotiate what they are doing. When the USB3 device finds it does not have those extra wires etc. on the USB2 port, it falls back to using only the USB2 communication system. Thus the USB3 device can only do data transfers at the older slower speeds...

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Check the Model Number of your unit carefully. There are many StoreJet M3 models. The model numbers all seem to END with a number (2 or 3) or a number followed by one or two letters. If the number is 2, it's an older USB2 unit. If that number is 3, its designed for the new USB3 system.

Which USB system is important, and I suspect is the root of your problem. Older laptop external drives designed for USB2 systems were built with very low-power HDD units inside so they can work with the limited power available from a USB2 port (0.5 amps). Some of these also used a special USB cable with TWO plugs on one end that had to be connected to two USB2 ports to get enough power. On newer external drive units for USB3 systems there is no such double-headed cable. Instead, they come with a USB3 cable and REQUIRE a USB3 port on the host computer. That port can supply up to 0.9 amps. Now, these latter units are sold as "compatible with USB2", BUT what that means is that you CAN plug them into a USB2 port and the data communication system will still work. However, that USB2 port will NOT provide enough power to actually run the HDD inside! The result is that the unit looks like it is working, or trying to. But it gets too many errors, or cannot actually access the drive at all.

I know about this because we ran into that with my grandson. We gave him a Transcend laptop external drive unit without realizing all this. The one we gave him WAS specified as a USB3 device, but his older laptop has only USB2 ports. When he tried to use it he seemed to write some stuff on it but all his attempts to read it back gave bad errors, and it simply could not work. When we realized the problem, we bought him an additional unit. It is a powered USB3 hub. That is, it is designed to handle 4 true USB3 (or 2) devices on its ports, and it has one USB3 cable back to the host computer for data transfer. It also has its own separate power supply module so that it CAN supply each of its ports with the full 0.9 amps that a standard USB3 port should. It does not draw ANY power from the host computer's USB port. With this system his external drive works perfectly. The drive gets enough power from the hub, and the hub and drive communicate at faster USB3 speeds. However, the connection to the laptop is via a USB2 port, so the speed of the data transfers is only at the older slower rate. Thus, although it all works this way, he will never get really fast USB3 data speeds and performance.

I suggest you have two options.
1. Do as we did - get a powered USB3 hub and use it (with its own power module) between the Transcend unit and your computer's USB2 port. It will work as above, and it can work on any computer with a USB2 port.
2. If you're only using this Transcend unit with your desktop system, you could buy and install in the desktop a card to provide a couple of true USB3 ports, then plug the Transcend unit directly into one of those ports.
 

prasanagrawal

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My device is usb 3 unit. i will try using your solution. thank you parer doc.
My laptop has usb2, will usb3 support my usb2 ports. I have asked computer accessories shopkeepers about it and they said for ub3 hub you will need usb 3 port.
please clarify this.
 

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Yes, you CAN use a USB3 device (including a hub) on a USB2 port. The new system was designed for backwards compatibility with the older one, BUT you do not get the main advantages of 3 over 2.

USB3 has two main advances over USB2.

1. MUCH faster data transfers. This is accomplished by using more data transfer wires in the cables and connectors and more advanced communications systems. But when you connect a device to a port the first thing done is for the USB controllers on each end to negotiate what they are doing. When the USB3 device finds it does not have those extra wires etc. on the USB2 port, it falls back to using only the USB2 communication system. Thus the USB3 device can only do data transfers at the older slower speeds when it is connected to a USB2 port. This is what will limit your speeds when you use the USB3 hub plugged into your laptop's USB2 port.

2. The power available on a USB2 port for the connected device is 5VDC at a max of 0.5 amps. The USB3 system raises that max to 0.9 amps. That's why your new Transcend unit can work using only the power available from a USB3 port, but cannot get enough power from a USB2 port.

Placing a self-powered USB3 hub (that is, one that uses it own power supply brick) in the line provides the proper power on the hub's ports, but the hub does not require or use ANY power from the laptop's USB2 port, so it is not limited in that way. However, although the communication between your Transcend unit and the hub will be at USB3 speeds, the second link - between the hub and your laptop - will be using only USB2 speeds, and that will limit the overall performance of the link.

If you look closely at the USB3 connector on the end of your cable that plugs into your laptop, you will see that it CAN fit into the laptop's USB2 port mechanically. You will see also that it contains four flat contacts near the front that mate with the four flat strips inside the laptop's USB2 receptacle. These four carry the DC power and two communication lines for the standard USB2 port system. The plug you have also contains five additional contacts further back, and these are the new special lines used for high speed data transfer. But your laptop's receptacle does not have matching contacts, so they simply cannot be used. Choosing whether or not to use those lines is part of the negotiation task when USB devices are first connected.
 
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