is a 1000 Canadian dollar build possible ?

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

hello there,
i need to convince my father to let me build a pc for little bros to move away from buying a ps4 and xbox one.
basically im getting a 1000 CAD budget (ill add on top of it from my own if i have to)
initial build was the following

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.00 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-E ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($439.00 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1156.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-25 20:16 EDT-0400

im giving away a couple ssds for them (i have an extra couple 256 ssds)
also planning on using the stock cooler for now.

i know the 970 is bad at handling 1440p even when sli due to the 3.5 gig buffer, any suggestions on gpus though ? i didnt go with the amd variety because i used a 290x and it was loud and ran hot
(cant imagine how it would do in crossfire)

datguy20 · Jul 25, 2015

How about this http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/Vt6mzy I went with a board that should support overclocking better (has 8-phase VRM instead of 4). Had to change the case to fit the budget, but it's still decent.

Really no reason to get the GTX 970 when they're more expensive, since the R9 390 exists.

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

i dont know, everything i seen so far showed it still runs hot and pretty much a re brand of the 290x (please no one argue that, specially AMD fans).
also, i would pay the extra 20 dollars for the nicer case and ram
the PSU is not the best rated.

im welling to top off some from my money, ut not going to cheap out 20 dollars and get something bad. i wanted 80+gold and fully modular to make the thing nice. also, 850 gives enough space for dual gpus, where 650 doesnt.

ko888 · Jul 25, 2015

The Radeon R9 390 is just a re-badged Radeon R9 290 with a 50 MHz increase in GPU clock speed and 250 MHz increase in memory speed. Since they draw more power because of the increased clock speeds don't expect them to be quieter.

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

ko888 :

thats why i dont want them, i want something quite and nice. not a boing 747

techgeek · Jul 25, 2015

alsar88 :

You might want to have a look at Memory Express (www.memoryexpress.com), they have their Uber Price Beat. They give you an additional 10% of the difference off any retailers advertised price. So if you find a component $10 cheaper somewhere else, they'll give you $1 off the lower price. You might save yourself a few dollars.

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

techgeek :

alsar88 :

You might want to have a look at Memory Express (www.memoryexpress.com), they have their Uber Price Beat. They give you an additional 10% of the difference off any retailers advertised price. So if you find a component $10 cheaper somewhere else, they'll give you $1 off the lower price. You might save yourself a few dollars.

i have them in my city, they are very picky on that. the item cant be on sale and mail in rebate doesnt count and stuff.
maybe they changed though, havent been there in a while.

datguy20 · Jul 25, 2015

First, while AMD GPU's have a tendency to run warmer than Nvidia, when they have 2+ fans they run perfectly fine. The R9 390 is sort of a 290, but it has 4 more GB of VRAM (of which is higher quality than the 290's), and uses 25W less than the 290. It's also the same/less than a GTX 970. Honestly no reason to get a GTX 970 for gaming right now.

Second, that RAM isn't low quality at all. Mushkin is a good brand, and it's the same exact specs as what you posted, but cheaper.

Third, the power supply isn't bad. It's a tier 2 unit. See http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

I personally overclocked an R9 290 in my friends build as hard as possible. It runs below 75C with +300mV under full load. It has 2 fans..

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

ahhh i worked with a 290x on an old build and the card sounded like a jet. maybe mine wasnt a cherry picked card lol.
i believe it was an xfx card.
either way, the psu wont support sli and it isnt as efficient.

datguy20 · Jul 25, 2015

alsar88 :

Cherry picked? I got it for less than $200 used on eBay, how is that cherry picking? It's an XFX Dual-dissipation R9 290.

Anyways, you never once mentioned SLI in your post, so why would I pick a huge PSU?...

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

ok sorry about that man, i wanted enough PSU power to give space for a future push to the system.
also, maybe your card was better than mine. i just had bad experience :/

datguy20 · Jul 25, 2015

Here's a few tier 1's, all gold/modular/sli ready http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/compare/corsair-power-supply-cp9020083na%2Cevga-power-supply-220g20850xr%2Cevga-power-supply-220gs0850v1%2Cxfx-power-supply-p1850bbefx/

I really think the R9 390 is the better choice for you, especially because you plan on going higher than 1080p. The extra VRAM will be beneficial for higher resolutions.

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

datguy20 :

as i stated, this isnt for me. its for my little brothers. my dad is planning to buy an xbox one and a ps4 for them and i really dont find an benefit for that.
the reason for going higher than 1080p is to give them some leg room in the future. sli 970 can handle 1440p but the 3.5gig buffer isnt enough.

alsar88 · Jul 25, 2015

tea urchin :

your statement is full of assumption. ofcource you pick a monitor res you want when building a pc. i built mine a while back using a gtx titan, enjoyed my 1080p time, upgraded to dual to enjoy 1440p in a smoother prospect. ]

that was a useless help here, sorry mate.

ps. what im saying is 1080p for now, and 1440p in the future with dual setup.

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