MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 4GB VS MSI Radeon R9 380 Gaming 4GB

azza_01 · Jul 25, 2015

Okay so im planning to build a gaming pc im currently thinking to go with the 960 but, im reading things about the r9 380 performing possibly better i dunno. So anyone have anything on this??, would be great cheers.

Heres my build im planning on using:

CPU:Intel Core i5 4460:$259
GPU:MSI GeForce GTX 960 Gaming 4GB:$359
MOBO:MSI H97-Gaming 3 Motherboard:$155
RAM:Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3(1600Mhz):$99
HDD:Western Digital WD Blue 1TB:$75
SSD:Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD:$85
TP-Link TL-WN851ND 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter:$22( yes.. not the best choice but i have no option for running a cable at the moment)
ASUS DRW-24D3ST 24x DVD Writer:$20
PSU:Seasonic M12II Evo Bronze 620W : $129
CASE: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Black: $189

TOTAL COST: $1441 plus a fee for postage round $50 so overall $1500 ish.

My budget is at $1500 for parts max.!

Darkbreeze · Jul 25, 2015

The 380 has a slight advantage, but price would probably be my determining factor between the two. It's less than 5fps difference at 1080p on most titles.

Darkbreeze · Jul 25, 2015

I'd actually probably go with the R9 280x over either of those. The R9 380 is just a rebadged R9 285, which didn't do well against the 280x.

renz496 · Jul 25, 2015

What I don't understand is why AMD did not release full Tonga chip. The chip most likely able to compete head to head or even above full Tahiti chip. I believe AMD already EOL Tahiti. 280X might getting harder to get in near future unless you want to buy used one.

Darkbreeze · Jul 25, 2015

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $209.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-25 22:59 EDT-0400

spentshells · Jul 25, 2015

renz496 :

the 960 ti is why I am assuming the full Tonga chip was not released. It will come just before or just after the first 960 ti and perhaps the 2nd 960 ti after that.

Pure FUD

azza_01 · Jul 26, 2015

Darkbreeze :

cheers, okay so well the case of a 5 fps difference id stick to a 960. But if im right im reading that the MSI GTX 960 4gb has a base clock of 1241MHz with a 128bit memory interface . The MSI R9 380 GAMING 4G only has a base clock of 970 MHz , but a 256 bit memory interface. Now im not going to consider the OC speeds because that's something i will not be doing. So im confused whats better the MHz of bits ? i would have thought the MHz is more important.

Darkbreeze · Jul 26, 2015

Everything matters, and affects gameplay differently according to whether the title is more CPU or GPU intensive, what resolution, game settings, supporting hardware, dual card configurations versus single. Too much to really go into. Basing off real world benchmarks in the games you're most likely to be inclined to play is smarter.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't be inclined to overclock a graphics card since it's as simple as clicking a few settings in a user friendly tweak utility, but a card with a higher memory bandwidth but lower out of the box GPU clock, when overclocked, is likely to net you a significant increase in performance.

It used to be the manufacturers overclocked these cards to the max before sending them out, but now they seem to think that letting YOU do it makes it more worthwhile. Nice trick marketing, but we saw that coming. Overclocking is safe and modern cards are almost foolproof. As long as you have good case cooling airflow, to provide the card with the necessary outside ambient air for heat exchange, it's a good option. Even if you keep the overclock somewhat mid range-ish, it's probably worth it.

azza_01 · Jul 26, 2015

Darkbreeze :

Everything matters, and affects gameplay differently according to whether the title is more CPU or GPU intensive, what resolution, game settings, supporting hardware, dual card configurations versus single. Too much to really go into. Basing off real world benchmarks in the games you're most likely to be inclined to play is smarter.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't be inclined to overclock a graphics card since it's as simple as clicking a few settings in a user friendly tweak utility, but a card with a higher memory bandwidth but lower out of the box GPU clock, when overclocked, is likely to net you a significant increase in performance.

It used to be the manufacturers overclocked these cards to the max before sending them out, but now they seem to think that letting YOU do it makes it more worthwhile. Nice trick marketing, but we saw that coming. Overclocking is safe and modern cards are almost foolproof. As long as you have good case cooling airflow, to provide the card with the necessary outside ambient air for heat exchange, it's a good option. Even if you keep the overclock somewhat mid range-ish, it's probably worth it.

ah okay thx, so if the r9 380 were to be overclocked it would beat the hell out off the gtx 960 since the OC speed of the r9 380 can go up to 5700 MHz and the gtx 960 can only go up to 1216 MHz?

Darkbreeze · Jul 26, 2015

Heh, well, you wouldn't want to do that, even if you could, which you can't. You can get about a 7% maximum gain by overclocking the R9 380 without going into dangerous territory.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1986-amd-r9-390-r9-380-overclocking-benchmark

I think the R9 280x is a better card myself.

azza_01 · Jul 26, 2015

Darkbreeze :

ah right got ya , ill take a look at that. Well so far i might just go with the 960, the r9 280x aint available for me anyway . Not that this will make any difference but i have gone with a intel CPU so may as well make it nvidia gpu lol.

Darkbreeze · Jul 26, 2015

An Intel CPU with a GTX 960 is still a highly formidable configuration. Much better than most consoles and even amongst gaming PC's is respectable for sure.

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