Building a silent HTPC with Asus Z97-A and i7-4790k in a hot country

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Hello there

Two Articles got my attention and made me decide to build a passively cooled PC with no Fans, although I live in a warmer country.
My main inspiration comes from THIS ARTICLE and later on a Article from this site.

Right now I have following components:

Mainboard: Asus Z97-A
CPU: Intel i7-4790k 4GHz
RAM: 4x8GB Crucial Sport
SSD: Samsung 500GB

The articles talk about two very different cases, one is a low desktop unit, the Streacom FC10, the other article about a small tower case, the SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E.

I just realized that my mainboard is of ATX size and wont fit the Silverstone case, but there are still other Silverstone cases around that do support ATX.

The purpose of this PC is to play Tidal Streaming (16bit 44.1 kHz FLAC streaming), play local High Resolution Music files 16/24bit and DSD ( streaming and local music is played through an external USB DAC - digital to analog converter) & see and stream HD movies (local files and netflix and a likes).

I dont inted to play games, I guess my CPU is a bit overkill for my purpose...

My question is, how to proceed? What case would you choose? How to cool?

PSU:
Can I combine a Fanless Powe like advised on this site (SilverStone Nightjar 400W Zero dBA) in a Streacom FC10 unit? What do you think of the PSU mentioned in the first article, the HDPLEX 250W Hi-Fi DC-ATX Power Supply?

Is the passive cooling device in the Streacom FC10 case enough? It looks very small comparable to the SilverStone Nightjar 400W mentioned here in tomshardware. How much power do I really need?

Should I worry about the small space in the case because of the warm country I live in and build instead in a small tower (More Air)

Do I need a GPU for HD videos?

A lot of questions, I havent been into hardware and builds quiet some time now, and feel like I'm totally out of business lol

Important:
Please don't tell me what Mainboard or CPU I should buy instead, I know that what I have is kind of overkill for my needs, but it doesn't mean that it won't work.
I received the parts from a friend who traveled to the US, and I dont intend to buy something else, or to sell my stuff :)

As you can see HERE, it works, and Intel is showing it on shows! So it has to be doable



Thanks

 
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davidarad02

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for an HTPC, you DO NOT need the i7. if you would like to play games on it too, (unless you have a 4k TV) I would recommend getting a i5 (no need for a k sku, even the i5 4460 is fine) and a GTX 960 with a nice after market cooler on it, all that inside a tiny mini ITX box. I've got a list for you, so you can understand what your really need:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($101.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black2 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($79.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $829.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-26 10:51 EDT-0400
 
I am personally a fan of having a bit of air flow in a system(If you happen to have a slim optical drive chances are it will make more noise than a quiet fan anyway, but some are more quiet by slowing down on DVD/CD/BD, but still loud with data discs), but that passive case could work. This would make the Silverstone an interesting option to me(but it will not be as quiet as the other one).

The onboard video should be upto the task of watching video(Bluray/DVD/Streaming/ECT), but even something like a simple 750 or 750 ti could allow some med/high detail gaming(1920 x 1080).

About the power supply.
The HDplex is a DC-DC power supply and does not have to deal with the 120/240 AC to 12 volt conversion and instead deals with I think 16-18 volts down to 12/5/3.3/ect. This means you have a large power brick outside the system like an Xbox 360 video game console. That is how the power supply gets to be soo small.

It is not exactly super powerful because it is rated at 192 watts @ 12 volts with peaks of 228. This is the point that a slightly slower cpu would have come in(I know you have one anyway). This rather low 12 volt power rail dictates what other hardware should be used in the system. Notebook drives and SSD's are best for the lower power consumption(and 2.5 inch drives tend to be more quiet than 3.5 inch).

I would build a system without a video card and see how it works. A video card can always be added later. The passive case may need optional components to passive cool a video card. Streamcom also has its own passive power supply(rated a bit under the HDplex one).

Sorry to not have exact specs, but every user has different requirements. My media center PC uses weaker hardware(i5 750, gtx 650ti[my cpu has no onboard video], 3TB WDC red[storage], 1TB WDC Scorpio Blue[Media center PVR], M4 128 SSD[OS/Programs], Slot load Sony optical drive and external Bluray reader). It is more than upto the media playback duties and some light gaming. It uses an SFX 300 watt power supply(not the most quiet under load, but fine for me with a swapped fan). The system is inside of a SG05 from Silverstone(A perfect size for my use).
 

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Hello Nukemaster and thank you for your help

Case:
I wont use a optical drive (CD/DVD/BR) in my system, and I see that the Silverstone Case wont fit my ATX size board. HDplex is going to release a new case in august (http://www.hd-plex.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5705) So I guess i will be waiting for this one, since it will support ATX boards...

PSU:
I dont mind having a large brick outside my pc in order to keep the power supply inside the case small, but do I understand from your answer that no matter what, its not powerful enough?

Thanks

 
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Computers are not as power hungry as some users think.

With a low powered(or just use the IGP) video card and you cpu, I do not think the system would overload the HDplex power supply.

You also have options to maybe cut back the clocks a bit to save some power or under volt the cpu.

My UPS was clocking my media center under 50 watts idle(even more so with a weaker video card and 2.5 inch drive only). and a max of about 180. This is after power supply waste. My mITX board is also power friendly with no fancy features and a rather basic chipset(H55, but now rather obsolete).

Using a ATX board does change your case options. At current the Streacom FC10 is the best case for someone wanting small(height wise, the case is still rather wide) while still fitting an ATX board.

If you look at the SilverStone website you will see a list of ATX cases but I do not know if any are what you would be after.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product_case.php?go=3&tno=99&area=en

It is hard to find just what you want. So you have to pick what works best of what you can get. Some users run full towers for HTPC duty(advantage is larger fans and very quiet operations when setup right.).

EDIT
That new HDplex case looks VERY good too. I like the heatsink integrated into the heatpipe holder.

EDIT EDIT.
In that forum post "HDPLEX 300W Linear PSU" Damn that could be toasty and large unless it has a switcher to get the voltage in range of the linear portion.