Why won't my new CPU make my PC performance faster?

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I have just upgraded from an intel pentium G3258 dual core to an intel i5 4690k quad core. I have installed it straight into my PC, it turns on and run absolutely fine, just still as slow as before. I have updated my bios and cleaned out my PC but that has still not made it as quick as it should be? Is there anything else I can try to make my i5 work as quickly as it should?

My other components are Asus H81M-E motherboard, 8gb crucial ram, 430W Corsair psu, 1tb hdd with nvidia 750ti GC and obviously i5 4690k cpu.
 
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Searching the internet and playing online games is an internet speed issue. Even a weak dual core e8400 from 8+yrs ago can do that speedily with a faster internet connection. What is your ram usage like, is it around 4-5gb out of 8gb being used or are you closer to using 7.5gb+? You mentioned a 1tb hard drive, is it a 5400rpm (like a wd green) or is a 7200rpm (like wd blue)? How full is the drive?

Some would suggest an ssd and I'm sure it would be an improvement for things like opening/closing programs however if a standard hdd is performing correctly, isn't heavily fragmented or full to the gills, it should be quite snappy. I'm running this machine on a single hdd and opening/closing programs takes fractions of a second. Though I've...
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It depends on what tasks you're doing. Which tasks don't seem faster? If gaming it's likely that you're limited by your 750ti. If you weren't stressing your g3258 to begin with (aka often at or near 100% most of the time) then a faster cpu won't make things faster. It would help to know what scenarios you're noticing your pc to be 'slow' since different components have varied aspects on speed. A slow internet connection won't be made faster by a faster cpu. A gpu maxed out won't allow the graphics of games to run much faster if the cpu wasn't bottlenecking in the first place.
 
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My G3258 was on 100% cpu most of time I was using it, but things like searching the internet, playing browser games are just slow. Gaming is yielding similar results, for instance CSGO is running on the same fps as my £40 cpu as my £177 cpu. Just all round generally quite slow as to opening/closing tabs and different programmes.
 
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Searching the internet and playing online games is an internet speed issue. Even a weak dual core e8400 from 8+yrs ago can do that speedily with a faster internet connection. What is your ram usage like, is it around 4-5gb out of 8gb being used or are you closer to using 7.5gb+? You mentioned a 1tb hard drive, is it a 5400rpm (like a wd green) or is a 7200rpm (like wd blue)? How full is the drive?

Some would suggest an ssd and I'm sure it would be an improvement for things like opening/closing programs however if a standard hdd is performing correctly, isn't heavily fragmented or full to the gills, it should be quite snappy. I'm running this machine on a single hdd and opening/closing programs takes fractions of a second. Though I've also used pc's with full hard drives, running low on ram, slow rpm hard drives, cluttered hard drives etc and the simplest of things will feel like working with molasses.

When you say csgo is running just as slow as before, I'm assuming you're playing it online. If that's the case and it's running slow, your web searches are running slow it all points to a slow internet connection. A 5960x $1000 8 core 16 thread cpu won't help that. What type of internet is it, dsl, cable? If cable, it usually runs off a shared connection throughout the neighborhood. Some are worse than others, but in some cases say in the late afternoon or early evening when people get home from work and everyone jumps online it can (not always) heavily impact the shared speed. In really bad cases people with 'fast' cable internet experience 56k speeds just because the local network is that heavily loaded. Which is why isp's often say 'speeds UP to x amount' in their advertising, not a guaranteed speed.
 
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Let's say I open Google chrome, my CPU usage will jump to 100% for that to load, then drop down to like 40%. My RAM even when gaming and such like never really goes above 4gb. My hdd is about 30% full so it can't be that! It could well be internet speed however I have a 40mb download speed and my brother has recently got a brand new pc and his internet is so much faster at loading things than mine. I am getting windows 10 tomorrow and hopefully that should make it a bit quicker but if not then I will look into a better motherboard as I had overclocked my last CPU and don't think the settings are back to default and not 100% sure how to make the motherboard setting match the new CPU. Thanks for your help
 
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If you want your computer to "feel" faster ditch the mechanical hard drive and get an SSD.
 
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I don't understand what you're saying? How will an ssd card do this? I have never really looked into getting one tbh or know what they do.

 
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It's normal when opening programs for the cpu to spike to 100% for a split second then drop back down. If it's only dropping to 40%, something else is running and a look at the processes in task manager would be needed to find out what exactly. I don't know what all programs you have on your pc, but it may be worth checking the ram by opening a lot of programs. Open your browser and load up facebook or something in several tabs. Open media player, a game, any variety of programs and check your resources tab to see what ram usage is then. If you have just about every program open you can think of and you're still hovering at 4gb ram, there may be an issue with the memory or motherboard. With 8gb of ram and a 64bit version of windows, you should hit 6-7gb of ram usage. Just to verify that it does go up higher than 4gb (roughly one stick).

When a system runs out of memory (or thinks it has) it will use part of the hard drive which is a lot slower than ram - called a swap file. If it's frequently hitting the swap file instead of using the ram you should have available, that would explain a lot of it. As I said, an ssd would make things faster like bmacsys suggested however it shouldn't be as slow as you're experiencing to begin with. It would almost confirm (at the expense of cost for an ssd) that there's unusually high swap file usage if an ssd suddenly made things night and day faster.

This would happen if someone had 2gb of ram (an extreme scenario). Yes an ssd would make night and day difference, since the system would be accessing the swap file and an ssd is faster than a hdd. However it's not the root of the problem, in that case the problem would be not enough ram and the faster ssd is a bandaid to a more fundamental system problem.

If you haven't cleared your bios settings since you switched cpus, it might be a good idea. Try turning off the pc (full shutdown) and unplug the power supply. On your motherboard is a round coin cell battery (probably the only round silver colored thing about the size of a nickel or quarter that's there if you don't know what a coin cell is). Remove it from the motherboard and wait a few seconds, 10-15 or so. Put the battery back into the motherboard and plug the power back in and turn it on. That will reset your motherboard's bios to the default factory settings (but will keep the new bios you flashed it with, that doesn't change). You'll have to enter your bios and reset the date and time.
 
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