Help with building first gaming pc (mid-tier, around £500).

tophit101

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First time builder here from the UK, thanks in advance! I'm basing my build on the $600 build from this Lifehacker article, which was recommended by a work colleague - http://lifehacker.com/5840963/the-best-pcs-you-can-build-for-600-and-1200[/url] I'm sticking to the same general parts that are recommended, however I wanted to go for a better graphics card, as I could get more for my money with a better card than the card suggested (pricings could have changed, or vary due to being in the UK). I've done research on the different parts (I am doing an IT apprenticeship currently and I am an enthusiast, so you don't need to dumb things down too much). I've included both the price (including postage) and link for more info. I don't want to go higher than £500 all-in if I can help it.

Processor:
AMD FX6300 Black Edition 6 Core (£86.54) - http://

Graphics Card:
MSI Nvidia Gtx 960 Gaming 2GB (£167.08) - http://

Power Supply:
Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt (Semi-modular, £66.39) - http://

Motherboard:
MSI 970A-G43 AMD 970 ATX AM3+ (£46.99) - http://

RAM:
G.Skill 8GBXL Main Memory DDR3 8 GB Ram Kit 2x 4 GB (£45.81) - http://

Case:
NZXT Source 210 Elite Gaming Case (£39.20) - http://

Hard Drive:
WD 1TB 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive (£39) - http://

All in, it will cost me around £490. I want to buy the core parts (motherboard, case, processor, power supply) so I can do the majority of the building, then add on the other parts when they come in (unless this is a bad idea?). My questions are:

1. Are the parts compatible (i'm more concerned about the processor, GPU, and the motherboard).

2. Is the PSU adequate, or is 600W more than I need?

3. Is the motherboard too cheap? The Lifehacker article recommended it, however my reading suggests I should be looking for things around the £100 mark. Even if I replace the motherboard after a short while, I would still look to keep it for a family computer I will build (alongside any other parts from my PC that I decide to upgrade from). What should I expect from this motherboard, and will it handle the GPU i'm looking at without bottlenecking it?

4. Will my case be big enough for these parts? From what I've researched, it might block one of the bays on the case, which is fine for getting my initial build together (I'm aware that if I want to get some new parts, dedicated sound card, disk drive, SSD, I might need to get something bigger).

5. Do I have enough fans? If yes, would I need more to consider overclocking? The GPU and CPU come with fans, and so does the case.

6. For games, how do the CPU and GPU look? Research tells me that the GPU is far more important for the majority of games. From what I understand, the GPU can acheive 1080p (and higher?) on modern games with good FPS levels. I only have a 1080p screen, but it would be good to know what I can realistically expect once I get a good monitor in the door before I end up upgrading the GPU. Should I consider getting a different GPU that has 3 or 4GB of memory? And even though the CPU isn't so important for games, how will it perform in more CPU intensive games? And do I have to worry about bottlenecking the GPU?

Thank you for the help!
 
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I'd say you should upgrade your CPU as I have the same with a 760 superclocked and my graphics card can handle some things that my CPU can't as its very slightly bottlenecked. Considering your gpu is a bit better than mine and has directx12, I'd upgrade. Also, compatibility and power consumption etc can be checked by entering your build on UK PC partpicker

Ovdessel

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1) everything looks compatible (CPU - MOBO , GPU - MOBO, RAM - MOBO, Case - MOBO)
2) Not sure, try using pcpartbuilder.com to get a power estimate.
3) Best look at the reviews/experience of others about the board. I've heard that the quaility tree goes Asus>Gigabyte>MSI but that's just me
4) Case LOOKs big enough, check the manual
5) since its your first build Your case fans should be adequet, but if you want less heat then go for it, fans are usually cheap
6) AMD will always under perform intel chips but damn the cost savings! I've heard good things about the 6300, I have the FX8320 and so far so good. Can't say much about your GPU but you should google the benchmarks for it and see if you're satisfied with the results. 2GB is starting to become the lower limit for new games.
 

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I would seriously not consider using a Corsair CX unit in your PC. Plus, the FX line outputs some serious heat, so an aftermarket CPU cooler would be ideal.

Here's a more ideal build for £500 -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£79.19 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.48 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£67.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£35.72 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card (£147.43 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£55.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.18 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £495.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-29 17:58 BST+0100

This has a much better built PSU (550w is plenty by the way), a very high quality case, an excellent (and iconic) cooler for the processor that'll be kept frosty and a board which can overclock to much better levels.

Hope you like it.
 

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I'd say you should upgrade your CPU as I have the same with a 760 superclocked and my graphics card can handle some things that my CPU can't as its very slightly bottlenecked. Considering your gpu is a bit better than mine and has directx12, I'd upgrade. Also, compatibility and power consumption etc can be checked by entering your build on UK PC partpicker
 
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logainofhades

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This would be faster, and a bit cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£88.20 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£58.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£32.64 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.40 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card (£158.76 @ Aria PC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.50 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£49.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£9.38 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £459.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-11 21:15 BST+0100
 

tophit101

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Thanks for the list. Is there anything particularly wrong with the Corsair? I have already taken some of these parts and put them together for my parents. While the Corsair is 430W (much less powerful GPU), its worked fine for me so far, though I did buy from Amazon so returns are easy. The FX processor is the same as listed here, and the temperatures have been fine (though its not been placed where it will finally go yet, so maybe that will change).

 

tophit101

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Yeah I did have that in mind, I would like to go for something better considering that it's not as easy to replace as the GPU.
 

tophit101

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Ok thanks for the advice! If I have any issues with the PSU, i'll return it and look at getting a Tier 1 or 2 PSU instead.