Bootmgr missing after cloning win7

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

So i am trying to temporarily get around upgrading my win7 to win10 by dual booting. I know i cannot obtain a product key without upgrading from my 7 but my work at home program is not win10 ready yet. My solution was to clone my win7 drive, upgrade one of them and viola, violate the system long enough for work to catch up to me. I used Macrium Reflect to clone my drive to an empty partition, when going to the OS selection in my BIOS it only shows 1 windows 7, if i try to change the drive that i want to boot it tells me Bootmgr missing. any ideas on how i can fix this?

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

You can't "temporarily get around" it.
It needs to upgrade from within whatever qualifying OS you have.

I'm not sure what you're trying to do with the cloning thing, but I don't see that working.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

Right now ill deal with the details of the win10 upgrade on my own, I just need to figure out how to get my second copy of windows to boot.

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

Kevin Shelbrock :

Right. The boot partition that originally exists on that drive knows nothing about what you cloned into that other partition.

Possibly open up msconfig, select the Boot tab, and see what you can do there.

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

But that partition (OS from another system) may not boot in a whole different PC, no matter what you do or how you start it.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

same computer, different drive, i cleared some space on a non system drive and cloned it there I even cloned the boot partition... not sure what im supposed to be looking for in MSConfig. it only shows one instance of windows. this is well beyond anything ive tried before, and the research i did prior too choosing my tool made it sound oh to simple, i guess i jumped over my own head.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

same computer, different drive, i cleared some space on a non system drive and cloned it there I even cloned the boot partition... not sure what im supposed to be looking for in MSConfig. it only shows one instance of windows. this is well beyond anything ive tried before, and the research i did prior too choosing my tool made it sound oh to simple, i guess i jumped over my own head.

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

Kevin Shelbrock :

So you have 2 instances of the same OS installation in the same PC, just on two different drives?
The boot partition on the first OS needs to know about the second OS install.

Or, in the BIOS, select which drive to boot from. This would probably be easiest.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

dont know how to accomplish the first part of what you said, and i think thats the issue. When i go to change the boot drive from my bios it tells me "bootmgr missing alt-ctrl-del to restart"

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

Kevin Shelbrock :

Can you post a screencap of your Disk Management window?

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

not sure how to post a screen shot here.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

print screen-paste is not working

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

Kevin Shelbrock :

You have to save it as a file (jpg or png) and upload to one of the free image hosting sites.
imgur.com, for instance.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

ok give me a minute

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

Assuming Disk 1 is your new cloned drive, I believe the System Reserved partition needs to be first...all the way to the left.
Easus Partition Manager might be able to do this
http://www.partition-tool.com/

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

ill give that a shot and find out, does the boot partition on disk 1 need to marked active?

USAFRet · Jul 29, 2015

Kevin Shelbrock :

Unsure, but probably.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

ok, so 1 problem solved, couldn't get computer to even boot the cloned drivce because the boot partition was not active. now it will, problem is it is booting the original windows partition not the clone, because there is not a boot entry for the clone. creating a new boot entry is way the * over my head.

Kevin Shelbrock · Jul 29, 2015

ok so activated both of the clone partitions, did not relocate them, ended up causing a serious * boot issue where my computer will not identify drives to boot form at all... used my windows disk to repair startup... still wont identify the boot partition on its own, have to pull up the drive list in the bios and manually select my primary windows drive, but now my boot manager shows 2 recovered windows partitions, and the clone isnt the copy that i a made, its a later recovery from work ive done tonight lol. so as of now i have to bootable windows 7 partitions on 2 different drives, but still wont boot on its own the way its supposed to. partnering with my dad later this week to try and resolve that, dont want to mess with it anymore tonight because i work at home and cannot risk not being able to boot the next three days. but im pretty sure that once i correct the boot partition problem that i will be able to upgrade the cloned windows partion to 10 and boot them correctly from the windows bootmgr.

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