60+ FPS on a 2560X1440 Display

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I am in the process of researching parts for an upcoming personal build I plan on doing this month. I'm running into a few questions regarding display, so here I am:

What GPUs (either Radeon or Nvidia) are required to run 'current' gen games at 60+ fps?
Is a 144hz monitor even necessary if you're not exceeding 144hz fps? Do you receive any benefit?

After doing some brief estimates, my budget supports about the price of a gtx 970 (or Radeon equivalent), $1,000 total of the system. I'm looking to pair that up with an excellent monitor, hopefully under $500-$600.

Please offer up any suggestions you may have. Thank you!
 
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That is not what I said!
I said if you wish to get a 1440p monitor with a 144 refresh rate you will need SLI 980ti's to push that many frames with most of the newer games.
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with a 970 you'll manage a good few games smooth at that resolution but for consistent 60fps in general you'd be better suited to 1080p. at least for that budget. Best bet is to look at card benchmarks and decide from there if you're happy with the fps / res etc. Of course this is all assuming you'll be wanting to run games at max/ultra settings.
 
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Yeah...I see. Earlier this year, I sold my gaming rig when I moved. I had a GTX 980 and ASUS VG248QE. At a point, I did purchase the ROG swift, but I wasn't getting desirable framerates o a few of the games I was playing at the time. I don't have quite as much money to put into this build, but I wanted something solid.

Is it worth picking up a G-Sync/FreeSync monitor that's 1080p?
 
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So are you saying that a 144hz monitor isn't even necessary unless you're running SLI GTX 980ti?
 
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i have heard people singing their praise but i personally would save the money and just stick with a good hd monitor. its just preference. for a 21-24 inch monitor 1080p is the best, for anything better a higher pixel density will maintain the image quality so whichever is preferable.

If a 980 was leaving you underwhelmed im not sure you'll be happy with a 970. its a solid performer at 1080p and can manage most games relatively smooth on 2560p but its no 980ti .

 
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It wasn't that I was 'underwhelmed' per say, but I found that ultimately games looked better and performed better with a 1080p monitor at high/ultra settings, than they did on the ROG Swift. I had to crank down the graphical detail to obtain desirable FPS.

I ended up returning the monitor and sticking with the two ASUS VG248QEs that I had. I never really had time to experience G-Sync at it's full potential, so I didn't know if it was worth the money or not.

Also, Zerk2012 was saying that it's pointless to get a 144hz monitor with a 970, is this true? To notice the benefits of a 144hz monitor, you would need to essentially hit 144 FPS correct? Or is this not true? When I bought the ASUS VG248QE, it was mostly because of it's outstanding reviews at a mid-range price point, so I didn't fully understand the technical aspects of it at the time. Trying to wrap my head around everything now before purchasing a whole new setup.

 
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I play BF 4 on 144 hz monitor with adaptive sync on, getting 90-120fps+ out from my gtx 970. Game plays silky smooth. For gaming I would recommend 120-144 hz panel. Others saying otherwise did not seen or experienced better..
 
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The rog swift is a tn panel, that's probably why you thought 1080P looked better. The Acer Predator IPS 144hz with gsync at 1440P looks ten times better.

You need 2x SLI to run 4K at 60FPS on the unoptimized games like witcher 3, gtav, crysis 3...the rest of the games it runs at least 60, if not more in 4K with one card.

1440P, you need more than a 60hz refresh rate for one 980ti. Most games, barring the few unoptimized ones above, will run well above 60 at 1440P...80-100 at least all ultra settings. I get 150FPS in battlefied 4 at 1440P, all maxed out.

The advantage to having 144hz refresh rate is input from mouse and that but not only that, if you have G sync, it matches the refresh rate under the max of say 144 to whatever your output FPS is from the GPU...therefore you do not get any screen tearing or anything like that if you are under the refresh rate. Adaptive vsync is not the same and Gsync handles it much much better, without taxing your system at all.

If you have a 60hz monitor and you are running at 90 FPS, you will get screen tearing because your monitor cannot keep up with the frames being outputed by the GPU. That's why you use vsync, if your fps is quite a bit above your refresh rate.
 
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Ah okay, I see what you're saying. So I definitely should get a 144hz monitor then it sounds like. I guess where I'm at now, is should I stick with a 1080p display or go for a 1440p display. I don't think my budget allows for a 980 at this time, since I'm likely going to be spending a ton of a monitor. So, with a 970 in mind am I better off sticking with a 1080 display or can I safely upgrade to a 1440p display, receive better visuals and maintain 60+ fps on 'most' games?
 
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If you want max settings with 1080p and 970....stick with 1080P, get a 144hz with Gsync and it will run smooth as butter. The 970 wont even push all games past 60fps at 1080P...it will but more like 60-70 all ultra settings and then some games like battlefield 4 will hit 100 + at 1080P.

Will depend on the game but to really push 1440P, probably a 980 or 390x would give you decent performance without having to turn a bunch down. It will all depend on how much you turn down.

EDIT: I'm not saying you can't run 1440P with the 970 because you can but at lower fps and/or sacrificing settings.
 
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I wouldn't go for 1440p panel just yet, for one they are expensive and refresh rate isnt where I want it, I would rather get second gtx 970, outperform 980, and use nvidia DSR scaling to run sli 2k /4k resolution@ really good frame rates.
 
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I've always ever used Nvidia, so I really don't know a thing about Radeon. At this moment, I'm simply trying to maximize my dollar/performance.

 
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That is not what I said!
I said if you wish to get a 1440p monitor with a 144 refresh rate you will need SLI 980ti's to push that many frames with most of the newer games.
 
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Oh okay, fair enough. I think I may increase my budget either way and pick up a 980ti, just might have to delay the entire build a few weeks :(
 
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