New PC for world of warcraft

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Hey im looking to buy a budget PC for WoW.

I was looking at a BUYPOWER Desktop PC HORUS Series NE659FX

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A CyberpowerPC Desktop PC Gamer Ultra 2204 (GU2204)

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Would I be able to run wow at a decent lvl to be able to raid with any of those PC?

I also have a Radeon R9 270x along a Corsair CX750m PSU. Would those be upgrades? And compatible?

Thanks for your time in advance. John
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gV2QQ7
This is without OS. You might be able to use your old one (you sounded like you have one), if you still have the license key. If its Windows 7 or 8, you could upgrade for free to 10 with that license key, or just keep the old version, which will not matter much with WoW. You could download the to your key corresponding ISO file legally and install it via a USB stick. There are guides about this on the Internet or I could explain it to you.
But right now I have to leave. I will be back later.

Of course you would have to use your case, GPU and PSU.
If you do have a Windows license, then you could replace the mainboard I chose, with the one Calnin chose, because its better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($91.75 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Encore ENEWI-1XN45 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($7.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $492.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-06 07:15 EDT-0400

Something you can work with for now. I wasn't sure about the wireless adapter, but i included it.

You could also go with a cheaper case or cheaper CPU/MObo if you want, but in general, this is probably something you could start with.
 

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I agree with calnin. Much better choice to go that way. But you should absolutely add an SSD to that system or replace the HDD with one and buy a HDD later, if you dont have enough money. A 120 GB 850 Evo from Samsung would be fine for the OS and a few games.
I know from experience that WoW is MUCH smoother and faster with an SSD, because it loads so much data every time you move around in the world.
 

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Thats the point. The HDD is useless if he doesnt really need all that space, since hes only playing WoW anyway, yet he would still be able to put a few more games on it. An SSD will speed up the whole system MASSIVELY for only like $20 more, if you replace the HDD with it.
Again, as I say so many times: You simply dont build new PCs without an SSD anymore. Its just stupid.
Also if youre so concerned about a few bucks, you could have suggested him a cheaper case. It doesnt have to be a well known brand.
 

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Thanks for the input, I already have an ATX case so thats that. But for the SSD vs HDD, if I get that correctly I could use only a SDD? I dont really need the storage as this is pretty much only for wow.
 

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I was looking at everything and since I live in canada(unfortunately) prices are higher and I'm coming out with a 650$ proce tag...
Anyway you could suggest an other build for around 300-350$ so its more in my "Canadian" budget.

I have an atx case and a Seagate baracuda 7200.10 250g hdd
 

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gV2QQ7
This is without OS. You might be able to use your old one (you sounded like you have one), if you still have the license key. If its Windows 7 or 8, you could upgrade for free to 10 with that license key, or just keep the old version, which will not matter much with WoW. You could download the to your key corresponding ISO file legally and install it via a USB stick. There are guides about this on the Internet or I could explain it to you.
But right now I have to leave. I will be back later.

Of course you would have to use your case, GPU and PSU.
If you do have a Windows license, then you could replace the mainboard I chose, with the one Calnin chose, because its better.
 
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If you want to save some money for now, use your seagate and the case. Not ideal, but it'll just work.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($80.97 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($124.99 @ Memory Express)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN721N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.21 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $382.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-06 14:24 EDT-0400

Windows is there in case you need it and is included. Rest of the system will do fine. Wifi adapter is there if you need it, and if you are wired, then go ahead and ignore it.

SSD? Not important right now. Get it later and replace your drive later. SSDs are generally for mid-high budget builds. Even if he is only playing WoW, whenever OP decides to play other games, or if he already does, or maybe he has some other stuff he does that takes up more space, a 120-250gb SSD will hold him down in the long run. Just my take. Whatever... OP's decision.
 

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Thank you both for your time and input.

I think I will go for a mix of both.

-Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2GHz LGA 1150 53W BX80646G3258 Desktop Processor
-ASRock H97M Anniversary LGA 1150 Intel H97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
-HyperX Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model HX318C10FRK2/8
-SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-75E120B/AM 2.5" 120GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

So with those parts, My GPU/PSU case and OS I should be fine?
Also can I use my old Seagate barracuda 7200.10 along the SDD?
 

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Yes, of course you can use your old Seagate additionally. Just be sure to make the SSD your boot device.

Honestly, I am kinda unsure about the CPU you chose. Its a dual core which isnt even very fast.
WoW uses 4 cores, but not very efficiently, so a dual core might be ok, but benchmarks show even at an overclock of 4.7 GHz (which is quite a lot, yet you wont be able to overclock with a cheap mainboard and thus are stuck at low speeds) the G3258 is still much slower than a i3-4330 at stock speed. Its just a very bad choice.
So I think youre saving at the wrong end, especially since CPU power is important in raids. Better take an i3-4330, 4340, 4360 or 4370, depending on how much money you want to invest.
Better save on the memory (you dont need 1866, 1600 is max on that board) and the mainboard (can save up to $60 there).
 
Overclocking on the pentium doesn't require as much power and hardware compared to something along the lines of the I believe. It should be fairly simple and easy to get a decent overclock on it. I believe that Anniversary H97 is capable of overclocking fairly decently. The mATX version might not be able to support a noticeable overclock. If you plan on overclocking go with the full ATX board. If you're going with that mATX one, go with the i3. The g3258 should be capable of holding itself when you're playing WoW.
 

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That 4.7 GHz is only reached with a Zx7 mainboard, and as I said even with a huge overclock like that, which takes a lot of time to get stable, its still much slower (about 25%) than any of the stock CPUs I listed in my last post. So you can imagine how slow it really is without overclocking it.
Also its not a good idea to expect someone completely new to even building a PC on his own to overclock his CPU. It takes quite some knowledge and patience.
 
I honestly don't see a problem here. Not sure why we have to attain 4.7ghz, sure it's slower, but consider this: what's the price difference?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007670%20600005584
^ i3's in Canada

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374

^ pentium

If budget afford it, go for the i3, You're throwing in a SSD instead of the i3 (assuming we're trying to stay around the budget here...) Sacrifices. You're the one suggesting the SSD, but you're sacrificing somewhere on the system. It's stupid to get a system without an SSD? Well, you have to cut somewhere because there's a budget. As far as I'm aware, 150$ for an i3 + ~100$ motherboard, + ~100$ for an SSD. what's that equal to? 300-350$, which is the budget given as far as I'm aware.
 

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Youre arguing over irrelevant stuff. I already linked him a config that is within his budget and is fast enough and has a SSD. If he uses an i3 instead he can save even more and will be far below $300. But taking a Pentium instead will decrease performance in WoW massively. Taking cheaper RAM and a cheaper mainboard wont affect performance.
If you read again, he was asking for a $300 to $350 build in US dollars because that would be around $500 CDN Dollars.