New Build compatibility for PSU and Case

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

I posted earlier, but it's really lengthy and mostly everyone seems to prefer short and sweet. Also had a few specific questions:

CPU: i5-4690K
Mobo: Asus Z97-E
GPU: R9-270X
PSU: Enermax Triathlor ETA550W
Case: NZXT Source 220
RAM: Mushkin ECO2 8gb(2x4)
SSD: Mushkin ECO2 60gb
HDD: WD Blue 1tb

I've read up on PSUs and the Enermax has good reviews, seems to be a reputable supplier, and doing some calculations, should last me a build or two. Anyone have any experience with this PSU?
Also has anyone used this case for a water cooler? [strike]If[/strike]When I'm gonna overclock I'll need it.

DaronMal · Aug 7, 2015

JaxAxRho :

The PSU is mediocre, if you plan on overclocking I'd look to possibly changing the PSU

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

If this PC is for gaming i would get cheaper CPU i5 4460, cheaper motherboard H97 chipset.
PSU from Tier 1 or 2 - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

And money you save by getting cheaper CPU and motherboard, i would spend to get better GPU. here you can check what wattage PSU for which GPU - http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

@DaronMal I did not think it would take that much extra, but thank you for pointing that out. Would you suggest a 600W or 650W?

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

@turbopiki This PC is not primarily for gaming. It is actually for video editing primarily, hence why I figured I would go all out for the CPU. But I figured I would probably load a game or two on it. Most likely older games, so I may have to partition the HD to run them.

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

IF it is more for video editing, then you would be better off with Xeon E3 1231 v3 (Performs same as i7, the only difference is that it doesnt have IGPU)

You also cant oc Xeon so H97 chipset motherboard would be a better choice

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

The problem with the Xeon is quite a bit more expensive than the 4690k. And I would like to try my hand at overclocking, that's not a great reason to buy it, but it is a secondary reason that feeds on top of my video editing.

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

Xeon is much better for video editing than i5 4690k, Xeon should cost aboutthe same as i5 4690k or just a bit more, but at the end it will be cheaper because you can get alot cheaper H97 Chipset motherboard and you dont need Aftermarket CPU cooler for OC. With XEON stock cooler is fine

What is your budget and where are you buying ?

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

Is the Xeon that much better due to the multi threading?

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

Yes its just like i7, even in gaming its bettet, you need to OC i5 4690K to reach the performance of XEON

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

So what would you suggest if I still wanted to OC?

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

i7 4790K but that is way over your budget, there is nothing that comes close in video editing to XEON around hes price point even if you OC

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

How much better is the Xeon than the i5? I think that I could lose the OC and be ok, but if I'm still going to get good editing capability with the i5 I don't think it's worth loosing the OC capability.

JaxAxRho · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

Also forgot to answer your extra question. Total budget is $800 and I am buying in the US. I have a friend who lives right next to a MicroCenter (the i5 was under $200 there), but other than that I am open to whatever. I had a lot of the best deals right from NewEgg, but Amazon had a good price on a HDD and I can get free shipping there.

Extra question: how does the Xeon perform with CrossFire or SLi?

DaronMal · Aug 7, 2015

JaxAxRho :

Xeon's are extremely expensive, built for servers and large workstations, not for gaming. If you want more casual/gaming, i3, i5, i7. If you want top of the line editing and everything, Xeon, but they're FAR more expensive.

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

@JaxAxRho

-Xeon will do about 30% better in video editing because of hyperthreading.
-Not sure what you mean, buy yes you can SLI or CF with XEON

@DaronMal

Thats not true, Xeon perform same in games as i7.

And also they are not more expensive.

XEON

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $304.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-07 21:13 EDT-0400

I5 for OC (You need good Z97 chipset motherboard for good and stable OC and dont forghet you also need CPU cooler and the good ones go for 60$+ if you want good OC)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ B&H)
Total: $324.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-07 21:15 EDT-0400

nikoli707 · Aug 7, 2015

skylake will be up for sale in days. just wait.

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

Build for 800$

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin ECO2 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.01 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($241.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $793.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-07 21:20 EDT-0400

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

nikoli707 :

It already is for 2 days, but is not worth it yet they cost to much

DaronMal · Aug 7, 2015

JaxAxRho :

I would suggest 650W, but what I meant was the quality of your PSU is poor, poor quality PSU's can fail easier and hurt your PC if they fail.

DaronMal · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

Xeons aren't really made for gaming in the first place, they're for workstations mostly, at least that's what they're designed for. Buying one for the purpose of editing a few videos and playing a game is like using a bulldozer to take apart Lego's.

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

Xeon perfroms same as i7 in gaming and video editing, the only difference is that Xeon doesnt have IGPU because servers dont need them, but that doenst mean you shouldnt use XEON for gaming is same CPU as i7 only without IGPU, so if you say that XEON is not for gaming and video editing than you are also saying that i7 is not for gaming and video editing. Just because Xeon was desgined for Servers doesnt mean it cant be used for other stuff, do some reserch and you will see that alot of people are using Xeons for gaming and video editing and the get same results as with i7 because its the same chip

DaronMal · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

Not really, the best i7's run from $300-$500 range. The best Xeon's run anywhere for $1,000-$5,000. They have more cores than the typical i7 but are far slower, which makes them worse at gaming because gaming requires fast, Xeon's aren't built for fast unless they're a low end Xeon, but at that point you might as well buy an i7 because they're built for gaming.

turbopiki · Aug 7, 2015

We are not talking about 500$ i7 or 5000$ XEON, we all know that i meant Xeon E3 1231 v3 (which i suggeste in my build) and i7 4790 which is also 1150 socket, nobody didnt even mention 2011 socket.

And no i7 4790 wasnt build for gaming, it was built for video edting (you can also game), if you only game you can go with i5 4690k because you wont see any difference in gaming between i5 4690k and i7 4790.

Why would you buy i7 if cost more than XEON, he dont need IGPU he is getting dedicated card, difference in gaming between i7 and XEON will be max 3 fps just because i7 is clocked a bit higher.

i actually don't know why i am telling you this since you obviously think that world will burn if you use CPU that was designed for Servers in gaming PC.

DaronMal · Aug 7, 2015

turbopiki :

The point you dont get that Im trying to make is the Xeon's are for servers, not meant for gaming, sure, you can use a Xeon for a gaming build, but it's pretty stupid to when an i7 will probably overclock better, have a higher clock overall, and cheaper.

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