Intel i3 4170 or amd fx 6300 ?

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Which one of these cpu's would be better for the money for a Gaming rig?

Note: When i say better for the money i mean at STOCK clocks, I have no intention of overclocking.

A few examples of games ill be playing include but are not limited to :

Black desert online
Tera online
The elder scrolls online
Rust
Killing floor 2
BF4
Smite!
W.o.W
Outlast
Osu!

Edit : Thanks to everyone who has helped thus far,and thanks to anyone else in advance.

I mostly play Fps,Horror,and MMO games in General,will be running a dual monitor setup with a gtx 960 for my dedicated gpu.
 
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That is probably best. Honestly, at $600, you are close...

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Im deciding only on the mobo and cpu but have everything else ( Psu,ram,etc etc) already.
also updated the thread with a few Games i play.
 
My best suggestion for you would be to wait a little over a week. On August 14, Intel will ship its Skylake processors. You won't want to get one of those, because they are targeting enthusiasts first, starting with Core i5 and Core i7. So bit too much, but it might knock the price of current CPUs down $10 or $20. Given it is just one week away, you don't have much to lose by waiting.

As for which to go with, I'd advise going Intel. A Core i3 won't do too bad for you.
 

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under 600
either of those processors fit the budget,sadly i don't have enough to go over the i3 for an i5 , however like IInuyasha74 said the new skylake processors from intel are releasing soon,so i may just wait for that and see if the price of an i5 goes down.
 

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yes with all the parts
 


They will around that time probably, but the motherboards are going to cost more initially, and DDR4 costs more too. A few Skylake motherboards can use DDR3, but they are still a bit pricey. If he has a tight budget, probably best to not actually get Skylake. Great for those with about $700 or more, but any less than that, and users will probably want to stay grab deals on Haswell. Especially once a few price cuts come in.

Normally I'd agree to wait and go for the Skylake Core i3, but the increased RAM and motherboard prices at the moment are going to keep Skylake from budget system builders probably for the first six months or so.
 

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Thanks for the info i'll wait it out a bit and compare the skylake i3's to the haswell's ,if those dont fit my budget ill look for a reduced i5 if that still doesn't fit my budget i'll go with the i3.
 


That is probably best. Honestly, at $600, you are close to being able to afford one of the lower-end Core i5 CPUs right now, so it is very likely that if prices drop a good $20 or so between the CPU, motherboard, or RAM you could make it work. Post back here in a week or so and we can pick back up where we left off and see what we can find price wise.
 
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Thanks! , will do.

 

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Small question,but after doing a little research would the amd Athlon x4 860k be a potential alternative to the i3 and the 6300?
 
Yes like the top people above said. Those little AMD processors aren't bad, sometimes on a tighter budget that is the best thing to go with. I'd probably push it and say after $400-$450 that they aren't worth it anymore. I'd personally avoid them unless I was building a non-gaming system designed for basic web browsing and office work. In that scenario I feel that it offers more value than the competing Intel Pentium chips as it can handle more threads, but for gaming there is a sizable drop when you move from a Core i3 or FX 6300 down to that, and it is really better to not do it.
 

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Oh okay i see,thanks for the warning, btw i rechecked the prices the 6300 is selling for $90 now and the 4170 is selling for $120 (Amazon prices) , and motherboards for both cpu brands selling for around 50 - 60 $, although im still thinking about waiting a few more days for skylake to release to see if that would potentially cause the cost of the hasewell processors to go down,also i forgot to note i do run a dual screen setup,with minor things in the background on my 2nd monitor ( Chrome , msi afterburner, antiviruses , stuff like that ), i heard the fx would be better for multitasking tasks such as that, or would the i3 still be the overall better processor, i plan to use the computer for about a good 2-3 years before having to upgrade again.
 

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The problem with the I3 is it is only dual core. Some of the newer games, I have heard, will not even run on a 2 core processor and this is likely to continue as newer games are released. I am not sure if the I3's hyper-threading would compensate or not.
 

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While the i3 is a dual core, it has hyper threading and games that won't launch on dual cores will launch on i3 because it sees the i3 as a quad core.
 


This isn't accurate. Essentially all games will run on a dual-core, just recommended settings are usually quad-cores. In fact games can't actually tell the difference between hyper-threaded cores and real cores. Performance is lower on the hyper-threaded cores relative to a real quad-core CPU, but the game doesn't have any way to know the difference.

More to the point, even if such a limitation existed, the FX 6300 wouldn't help. These AMD CPUs aren't really 4, 6, and 8 core units. They are half that.

Inside of a traditional type of CPU are numerous pieces. Two of the main units are the floating point units (FPU) and the integer units. A single CPU core has one of each. AMD came to the conclusion that FPU was less important, and when designing these CPUs, they opted to mix this 1:1 ration up, by placing one FPU for every integer unit. So two of AMD's CPU cores are closer to being 1.5 CPU cores.

Well things get worse for AMD, as they went for a design that emphasizes high clock speeds over IPC, even though it isn't capable of exceptionally higher clock speeds. The problem here is that comparing one AMD core to one Intel core isn't even close. One Intel core performance about twice as fast as an AMD CPU core.

Overall, the AMD CPU tends to perform a little better than Intel Core i3 when you are heavily multi-tasking, as it can run more threads (think of one thread, as a single application) at the same time. The Intel CPU on the other hand with hyper-threading would be running essentially four threads at the same time, but each of those threads would be working much faster. (This is incredible simplified, but gets the general idea across) Whenever you are only doing a moderate level of multi-tasking or you are playing a game, you will find the Core i3 to provide superior performance though.

Long story short, if either of them has a performance advantage, it would probably be the Core i3, but that performance advantage isn't so great that the FX 6300 doesn't get advised from time to time because, because it does sell for a good price, and still does reasonable performance.

You might try checking on the prices you can find for them and low-end Core i5 CPUs now. The prices on these units might of dropped a little early in anticipation of Skylake.
 

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This was actually more informative then any tech vid or website i've read so far period. As for the lower end i5's the lowest ive seen for one is the 4460 and that sells for $189 which kills my budget by a lot sadly. However again thanks for the information.