Do you think the price of amd 380 4gbs will drop soon ?

BrolyisGod · Aug 10, 2015

Hoping for them to go under 200$ and do you think amd will release 380x and 370x?

davidarad02 · Aug 10, 2015

amd will eventually drop the price, and amd will eventually releace the 370x and 380x, but that card is still practicly brand new.
I think that unless nvidia does something crazy with their GTX 960 4GB, the price of that card will stick where it is.

geofelt · Aug 10, 2015

Graphics card prices are very competitive.
You get what you pay for in performance, possibly excepting the very strongest cards.

I see no important drop in price unless a superior price/performing card should launch.
I do not expect that this year.

I see R9-380 cards at about $200 now.
I also see comparable performing GTX960 cards for even less.

Such cards as a R9-380X and 370X may well appear.
They will likely be the same cards with factory overclocks intended to fill a pricing niche.

And... do not chase 4gb vram.
VRAM has become a marketing issue.
My understanding is that vram is more of a performance issue than a functional issue.
A game needs to have most of the data in vram that it uses most of the time.
Somewhat like real ram.
If a game needs something not in vram, it needs to get it across the pcie boundary
hopefully from real ram and hopefully not from a hard drive.
It is not informative to know to what level the available vram is filled.
Possibly much of what is there is not needed.
What is not known is the rate of vram exchange.
Vram is managed by the Graphics card driver, so there may be differences in effectiveness between amd and nvidia cards.
Here is an older performance test comparing 2gb with 4gb vram.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Performance-2GB-vs-4GB-Memory-154/
Spoiler... not a significant difference.

davidarad02 · Aug 10, 2015

geofelt :

Graphics card prices are very competitive.
You get what you pay for in performance, possibly excepting the very strongest cards.

I see no important drop in price unless a superior price/performing card should launch.
I do not expect that this year.

I see R9-380 cards at about $200 now.
I also see comparable performing GTX960 cards for even less.

Such cards as a R9-380X and 370X may well appear.
They will likely be the same cards with factory overclocks intended to fill a pricing niche.

And... do not chase 4gb vram.
VRAM has become a marketing issue.
My understanding is that vram is more of a performance issue than a functional issue.
A game needs to have most of the data in vram that it uses most of the time.
Somewhat like real ram.
If a game needs something not in vram, it needs to get it across the pcie boundary
hopefully from real ram and hopefully not from a hard drive.
It is not informative to know to what level the available vram is filled.
Possibly much of what is there is not needed.
What is not known is the rate of vram exchange.
Vram is managed by the Graphics card driver, so there may be differences in effectiveness between amd and nvidia cards.
Here is an older performance test comparing 2gb with 4gb vram.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Performance-2GB-vs-4GB-Memory-154/
Spoiler... not a significant difference.

4GB might be pure marketing for now (exluding a few vram hungly games), but in the future, more ram will be a blessing, as games will start to use more and more vram (take the titan X and 390x as examples. they are loading them with tons of vram, to be ready for the future)

BrolyisGod · Aug 10, 2015

geofelt :

Graphics card prices are very competitive.
You get what you pay for in performance, possibly excepting the very strongest cards.

I see no important drop in price unless a superior price/performing card should launch.
I do not expect that this year.

I see R9-380 cards at about $200 now.
I also see comparable performing GTX960 cards for even less.

Such cards as a R9-380X and 370X may well appear.
They will likely be the same cards with factory overclocks intended to fill a pricing niche.

And... do not chase 4gb vram.
VRAM has become a marketing issue.
My understanding is that vram is more of a performance issue than a functional issue.
A game needs to have most of the data in vram that it uses most of the time.
Somewhat like real ram.
If a game needs something not in vram, it needs to get it across the pcie boundary
hopefully from real ram and hopefully not from a hard drive.
It is not informative to know to what level the available vram is filled.
Possibly much of what is there is not needed.
What is not known is the rate of vram exchange.
Vram is managed by the Graphics card driver, so there may be differences in effectiveness between amd and nvidia cards.
Here is an older performance test comparing 2gb with 4gb vram.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Performance-2GB-vs-4GB-Memory-154/
Spoiler... not a significant difference.

A game I love to play called skyrim would love to have that 4gb vram over 2gb any day. You don't know how easily skyrim eats up 2gb vram when you install a bunch of mods.

davidarad02 · Aug 10, 2015

BrolyisGod :

geofelt :

A game I love to play called skyrim would love to have that 4gb vram over 2gb any day. You don't know how easily skyrim eats up 2gb vram when you install a bunch of mods.

thats also true. take GTA V and Shadow of mordor as examples as well.

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