GTX770 What should I replace it with??

wachuko · Aug 17, 2015

I am tired of the issues with my NVidia card... can't get 8.1 stable again, can't upgrade to Windows 10 either... all because of conflicts between Windows and NVidia. I need to move on and get my baby back.

What card should I go with??

Here is my current config. Got it to run by disabling the NVidia drivers:

Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage1: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage2: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Blue ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer
Speakers: Genius SP-HF1800A 50W 2ch Speakers
Monitor: ViewSonic VG2436wm-LED 24.0" Monitor
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-OSMIUM Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-KRYPTON Wired Laser Mouse
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) - Upgrade to Windows 10... and now everything crashed after two weeks of perfect behavior...

Bossyfins · Aug 17, 2015

Windows 10 is VERY buggy for NVIDIA aright now. Unless your saying to move to AMD, you might as well wait until drivers become stable.

wachuko · Aug 17, 2015

Bossyfins :

Looking for recommendations from the forum on a graphics card for my system that does not rely on NVidia... that is the only component that I am looking to replace due to the problems currently having.

So your recommendation is to wait for NVidia to fix this? I will give them some time... but want to have a plan B ready to go. Reason for posting asking for suggestions. Thank you!

Bossyfins · Aug 17, 2015

Unless you expect AMD to also have solid windows 10 drivers, your wrong... Windows 10 is so new AMD and NVIDIA are still rolling out drivers to improve performance. Every device requires a driver. Regardless.

imrazor · Aug 17, 2015

Funny, my GTX 670 has been rock solid since I upgraded to Windows 10. Is it the Maxwell cards having problems?

Bossyfins · Aug 17, 2015

Crashing? For me no. I have a 970 w/ windows 10 and it has been kinda stable. With some exceptions. But that is still being fixed.

wachuko · Aug 17, 2015

What I can't understand is why I have not been able to go back to the stable configuration that I had before all these crashes... I have not changed any hardware... I did a complete new install with my DVDs... and the system continues to crash. Only when removing the NVidia drivers (and I have tried several releases, not just the current one) does it work.

Everything worked well for a week or so until the last automated update on Aug 12... I can't get my machine to be like it was before that... and I just wonder if any of those issues cause a HW malfunction in the graphics card and that is what is happening to my system now...

I checked BIOS settings, there is nothing out of the norm... no overclocking, using the most conservative settings, using standard settings, nothing I do changes the situation with the rebooting if I try to use ANY NVidia driver...

Hope you guys can understand the frustration...

imrazor · Aug 17, 2015

Alright, here are some additional troubleshooting steps you can take. But be warned, they are time consuming and if you value your time highly, you might be better off getting an AMD card and being done with it.

1) Try your 770 in a different PCIe slot. Might be a faulty slot.
2) Roll back to Windows 8. I believe you have a month before you're locked into Win10.
3) Try a different video card in your motherboard with Win10. Maybe the GPU you had before you upgraded to the 770, maybe a friend's. Try an Nvidia GPU, see if the drivers still crash. Try an AMD, see if it's trouble free.
4) Install Linux and try the Linux NVidia driver and see if it crashes. If it works, that means you probably need to reinstall Windows. If it crashes, then it's probably hardware related.
5) Try your 770 in a different motherboard with Win10 (maybe a friend's system, or an old one if you have such lying about.) See if it's stable. If it works, then the problem is something with your mobo or you may a need to reinstall Win10.

It's all about the process of elimination.

EDIT: Trying a different PSU is also another valid possibility.

wachuko · Aug 17, 2015

I am going to do another fresh install of 8.1

I do not have a second GPU to test with... nor another computer to test the current card... my other computers are notebooks, and a few Macs...

I like the idea of installing Linux and testing those drivers... just to rule out hardware issues. I might do that first before opening the case again (opened the case to switch from the SSD to the regular hard disk for primary).

Thank you.

wachuko · Aug 17, 2015

Well... did the install of 8.1 again... NVidia driver disabled. Installed all Windows updates and made sure those were installed successfully. Enabled the Nvidia driver that comes with Windows (3.5382)...same black screen and reboot issues... sigh...

Time to pull out the Linux cds...

Sergeant_Sneaky · Aug 18, 2015

wachuko :

The driver is rebooting or the PC? If its the whole PC rebooting I don't think the GPU is the problem, it's more likely a PSU issue.

wachuko · Aug 18, 2015

The whole PC is rebooting... You are suggesting that it can be the PSU? What do you base that on?

It is a Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold...about a year only PSU... Why would it be a PSU issue? Can you elaborate?

I can use the computer without the NVidia driver enabled... no issues... when I try to enable the NVidia driver... boom!

Sergeant_Sneaky · Aug 18, 2015

wachuko :

When a PSU is faulty or not sufficient, the PC will reboot when under load, do you have another PSU to try?

wachuko · Aug 18, 2015

Sergeant_Sneaky :

I do not... man... I have this thing on an APC Smart UPS to avoid any current issues affecting the system... but it might just be the PSU... I will need to order a new one since I do not have one to swap for testing.

Thank you.

sora · Aug 18, 2015

I would personally keep the NVIDIA GTX 770 for a couple years.

wachuko · Aug 18, 2015

Trust me, I do not want to change the graphics card... I just want my baby back...

System is only a year old... running of an APC 1500 SmartUPS.

Anyway, I just place an order for a new PSU... should be here Thursday.

wachuko · Aug 20, 2015

Well... replaced the PSU and the situation is still the same... every time I try to enable to the NVidia driver the machine reboots... sob!

wachuko · Aug 20, 2015

I have done several clean installations of the NVidia drivers... different releases going back to the one from December... nothing. Every time I try to enable the NVidia driver, the system crashes/reboots...

I can only run the system with the generic Windows drivers...

Recent dump files... I even tried changing PSUs in case it was an issue with load on the system from the GPU... even if the whole system is only a year old, I had to try resolving this issue... I am at a loss... please help!!

Mini dumps:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=4BF904AC6C30DB3C!3494&authkey=!AFFtJnYa1EMC5FI&ithint=file%2czip

Memory dump:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=4BF904AC6C30DB3C!3495&authkey=!ABx4kDyu63FYPJw&ithint=file%2czip

Bossyfins · Aug 20, 2015

Wait. Reinstall windows 10 or whatever your using, install MOTHERBOARd drivers first then install NVIDIA drivers. Try that

wachuko · Aug 21, 2015

Bossyfins :

What do you mean by motherboard drivers?

I have updated the BIOS
Updated the Chipset
Updated USB, Network, SATA, Audio drivers
Even updated the Intel Management Engine Interface

Not sure what else to update...

Bossyfins · Aug 21, 2015

Not update. When you reinstall, your motherboard drivers are wiped. When you reinstall install your motherboard dirvers first.

wachuko · Aug 21, 2015

Bossyfins :

Got it. What is another complete install? LOL.

I will give it a try. Thank you.

wachuko · Aug 21, 2015

Bossyfins :

No luck... same results.. there has to be something wrong with the hardware in my PC? PSU is now ruled out...

So I am back to running with a disabled NVidia driver...

RobCrezz · Aug 21, 2015

It certainly sounds like the GTX 770 is faulty. With the numerous reinstalls it doesnt point to a software/driver issue.

Is it still under warranty?

wachuko · Aug 21, 2015

RobCrezz :

It should still be under warranty (it has a 3 year warranty). Let me check build date and serial number (means removing the card since I do not have that written down anywhere... ) I will open a ticket with Gigabyte

EDIT: I am a bit concerned... seems Gigabyte is very bad on honoring their warranty... will send nevertheless...

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