How much will I be able to overclock an fx 6300 3.5Ghz with the M5A97 r2.0 motherboard?

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Will I be able to make it to around 4.2Ghz?

My specs will be:

Fx 6300
M5A97 r2.0
8 gb ram
GTX 970
Hyper Evo 212
HX 620w PSU - kind of worried about this? can anyone confirm if it is sufficient for my needs?

So yeah, will I be able to hit around 4.2 Ghz? What kind of performance difference will I see from 3.5 ghz to 4.2 ghz with this current setup?

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I have no idea how high you will be able to go, not all fx 6300s are created equal some will overclock high some wont. That said you should be able to hit 4.2mhz no problem in fact you can probably go a bit higher. As for performance increase im not to sure depends on the game i get like 8-10fps going from my cpu's stock clock of 3.9ghz to 4.7 in bf4, sometimes a bit more sometimes less depending on the game you might see more than that with your 970. Yes that power supply is more than enough.
 

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I have a question, even despite overclocking, will there be a big noticeable bottleneck? Even though I really don't want to, I would be willing to fork in some extra money for a new cpu and mobo. If this is the optimal choice, what mobo+cpu combo would you suggest that will ensure I don't get bottlenecked (or as little as humanly possible), while keeping the price also as small as possible? Something that will definitely beat my current cpu+mobo combo.

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Currently have an FX-6300 clocked at 4.4 using a 212 EVO, this is pretty much the max that our chip can go to without hitting well... 'unsafe' thermal levels as specified by AMD. Temperatures range from 28-31 idle to 60-65 under prime95 for 30 minutes for the CPU itself and core temperatures of 25-28 idle and 55-60 under prime95.

Our settings are something along the lines of 22 multiplier and 1.385+ volts, it was not stable for anything under this setting.

At 4.2 ghz it should be absolutely attainable without too much difficulty at around 1.375 volts as another poster above stated, just be sure to run P95 and or another program to stress the CPU to ensure you're within your thermal limits, AMD's 'safe temperatures' seem far lower than those on Intel chips. Recall we had temperatures of about 25-28 and 55-60 as at 4.2.

Just manually adjust voltage and multiplier till you find a setting that is stable - by stable, we mean can survive a prime95 blend test for at least 6 hours without overheating and or having core errors. Errors show up fast typically and are almost always a sign of undervoltage - if you get illegal sumouts, increase voltage.

Performance difference? IMO, you will not notice that much difference, maybe 1-2 FPS in games, you will notice a difference in CPU intensive stuff like rendering, encoding, and the like but if you're gaming? Not much will change. Although it's not a reliable measure of actual system performance, using Windows 7's system rating, 3.5 to 4.4 ghz only bumped the processor rating from 7.4 to 7.5 for example. Response times will be faster, boot up times will be faster (or maybe it's just imaginary) etc, so yes it will be faster, but it will be so minuscule that you probably will not notice. Likely this is due to turbo on the stock which goes to 4.2 ghz already so figure if you overclock it's rather pointless unless you take it beyond 4.2.

As for bottleneck, not sure, in the process of running some benchmarks as we've got the same question only that it's on an R9 390 instead of a 970 GTX (although the 390 is arguably slightly better than the GTX). If there's no bottleneck, then might as well just wait for the zen core next year and see if Jim Keller pulls another Athlon 64 out of thin air instead of go for skylake currently. Given his track record, well, at least this time round have some more solid ground to be optimistic as AMD has really been a letdown for the last 6 years. We need more competition to drive prices down.
 

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I get a decent boost in gaming performance when I overclock, especially in my modded skyrim, bf4 and gta v. In my modded skyrim I see at least 5-10fps increases in gaming performance same in bf4 were my cpu struggles to keep up with my 760, I bet he would get an even larger increase overclocking his system with a 970, that old cpu needs every edge it can get if your going to couple it with a 970 in my opinion. And it wasn't so much how many more fps I got it was how much it increased the minimum fps in pretty much all my games I get far less stutters and random fps drops with an overcloked cpu vs stock.
 

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Personally saw a 20+ fps boost in Skyrim/BF4 (don't play GTA) after an upgrade from a R9 270x -> R9 390, the over clock did close to nothing, but likely that was due to the GPU already being bottle-necked (no idea on this actually). CPU usage was never particularly high in either game, GPU capped out with the 270x, the 390 currently reaches 90%+ usage levels with the CPU at 50-75% max.

Anyways, have reset everything to stock to do some before and after benchmarks.

Here are stock figures on the FX6300/R9 390 combo





The min FPS rates are during the scene changes, otherwise they are normally steady at 40-50.

Will overclock again later and run these again.


 

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CPU usage wasn't high? In bf4 my cpu usage stays at 70%-90% pretty much at all times and spikes to 100% occasionally. Have you made a user.cfg in bf4? With this line "Thread.MaxProcessorCount 6" I find it helps performance quite a bit. Even in skyrim I get high cpu usage on cores 1 and 2 probably ranging from 40% to 90% depending on what I am doing and where I am in the world.

I have run those benchmarks multiple times I usually use unigene valley and they aren't very representative of real world gaming performance, an overclock will only show a slight difference. 3D Mark firestrike would be better as it has a separate physics test score which is almost completely cpu bound, or better yet play a bunch of different games and compare min, max, and average frames thats the only way to properly test how an overclock will affect gaming performance in my opinion.

Also the type of overclock you do may have an impact, for example I have heard from may people that overcloking via the FSB gives you better single thread performance which would be beneficial in games, I do a combination of both FSB and multiplier overclocks. I think I might test that one myself when I have time.