Fallout 4 is comming soon, need help with build to handle game.

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Alright, I am mentally handicapped when it comes to looking for a graphics card. I won't beat around the bush, I seriously have no idea what to look for and I'm not going to be one of those guys who act like they know what their saying. Anyways, Fallout 4 is Coming to my house November 10th to stay a while, and I want to know what YOU would suggest for a build that would be able to run it on the Highest settings on 1080p and still get a nice 60FPS or whatever the recommended frame rate is for games these days. I have always been told 60FPS is where the magic happens but I don't know when it comes to that. So without further a-do (lol) I have 2 questions.

1. What Graphics card should I get and should I upgrade anything else? (preferably under $600 but if it is worth the power than I can extend it a 'little' more)

2. What do I need to look at when buying a graphics card? (its the only thing on a PC I struggle with upgrading)

Budget: $1500 ($600 MAX for Gpu, rest is in case anything else should be updated)
Would like to go as cheap as possible without sacrificing performance or durability.
Go easy on me, I'm not as Superior as most of you lol.

Current build:
Windows 8.1 Pro (soon Windows 10)
AMD FX8350 (Black Edition Cloaked at 4.2Ghz)
Corsair H100I 2x120mm
Asus M5A97 R2.0 (AMD 970 + SB950 Chipset)
16G Ripjaw Gskillz (4x4G XL)
2x Samsung 840 EVO 250G SSD
Sapphire 7870 2G (Ghz Edition)
EVGA 650 Wat PSU (got to eager and bought non-modular...I know what a noob!)
NZXT Phantom Full Tower (Red/White)
 
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It's an updated version of the gamebyro engine. It will run on almost everything. But yes huge open world games are cpu intensive but the fx8350 will handle it with no problem.
Your gpu is a little underpowered compared with the rest of your build.
You could look for a 380x
Jays 2 cents just made a review of it
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when choosing a gpu, you look at fps benchmarks in the games you want to play. simple as that.


Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX



You should also start saving for a new mobo + cpu. The last couple of fallouts were cpu pigs.
 
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It's an updated version of the gamebyro engine. It will run on almost everything. But yes huge open world games are cpu intensive but the fx8350 will handle it with no problem.
Your gpu is a little underpowered compared with the rest of your build.
You could look for a 380x
Jays 2 cents just made a review of it
 
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HAHAHA! Get ready to live the 2 core dream amd owners...


You are aware that games like gta5, the vast majority of online games, etc
(And most likely fallout 4, based on that game engine)

Really hate amd cpus?

Things like terrible fps drops, terrible minimums, capping out at ~40 fps...
 
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I have known for a while that amd is going out of date pretty fast but when you're a college student thats only gets loan refunds every once an a blue moon you gotta make di with what ya got lol. I would love so much to have an intel build but as of the momment im broke as a joke lol. So most GPU's will have a benchmark type deal you can look at? And Martin1982 how do you have your fx8350 cloaked at 4.4? Mine only goes to 4.2 lol. So my last question is should nvidia be my choice or should i stick with amd Radeons? Sorry for bad grammer, im typing this on my phone in our math lab lol.
 
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You should be fine with your current hardware, actually. Assuming you are playing at 1080p 60Hz, the resources required to play vanilla Fallout 4 likely won't be extremely taxing on hardware. Do you have trouble running vanilla (unmodified) Skyrim with your current setup? Of course no PC requirements have been released yet.

If Bethesda decides to finally include some decent textures (fingers crossed) this might be where you would find your current card lacking in speed and rendering capabilities. Consider upgrading to either the 290 or 290X. Both options will definitely net you more than enough FPS at max settings, provided Bethesda doesn't suprise everyone with more rigourous system requirements.
 
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I just raised the multiplier and overcloked it. And to be honest it's a small overclock some people can hit 5ghz with this chip.
Im on air (212 evo) with a max temp of 56 and it's stable as a rock.
 
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See I never understood overcloaking. Im water cooled (H100i) and i have always wanted to learn how too. I have done a little research but nothing too in-depth. I mean would it be worth the risk? And would .2 more ghz make a difference? NOT BEING A SMART ASS lol im honestly curious.

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Yea i can play skyrim on 1080p 60hz no problem but if something happens too quick my computer's frame rate will hinder. Like for example in skyrim when i first go into a room it acts like its trying to load the entire house all at once and it lags horribly for 2 or 3 seconds but then its fine. Also playing farcry 4 my computer does amazing hut will hinder when driving. But i figured it was because farcry 4 was a bad port from xbox. I have had this graphics card for about a year and a half maybe its just its getting retirement age? And whats the difference between a 290 and 290x? Sorry dont mean to bomb you with questions.
 
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The R9 290 has 2560 Stream Processors compared to the 290X's 2816. The 290X is a very powerful card for the price, a custom card with a modest overclock will run most everything at 1080P with the absolute highest settings.

Here's a review of a custom 290. The comparisons are against a stock 290X. Expect similar gains (290 vs 290 custom) when benchmarking a 290X (290X vs 290X custom card.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_290_Vapor-X/9.html
$309 with $20 rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131665&cm_re=290x-_-14-131-665-_-Product
 
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You are right in some way, there can be a risk in overcloking, I did not touch the voltage this removes the risk alot.
And for some systems there are huge gains my i5 4690k is cloked from 3.5 to 4.4 this you will feel it does match an i7 in all games.
 
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Alright I did newegg's side by side comparison on the 290 and 290x and than out of curiousity did it to my sapphire 7870. I think im most certainly going with a 290x. I will need to learn how to overcloak, but thats nothing google and some youtube can't help with. I appreciate your help in helping me find a card and in explaining the differences.

@martin1982
Appreciate the help and insight on the overcloaking. Im going to start looking into overcloaking myself and seeing if it might be something my h100i could handle.
 
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