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CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec Green 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $605.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($113.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $607.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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turbopiki's answer is not even competent when you consider the $600 maximum budget has to include the Windows OS too .

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($96.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($86.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $606.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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This is far more powerful than any of the intel dual core builds . Where games use more than two cores it should win , especially in online play where cpu power is important . In older games the intel dual core builds may be better but often you wouldnt notice the difference .
The processor performs better when you overclock , but you get better speeds you should add a $30 CM Hyper 212 cooler some time in the future .
No doubt someone will criticize the budget corsair psu . In my experience they work well enough . It will be more than fine in a build like this that will draw less than 300 watts at full load
 
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The i3 is about 40 - 60% weaker than the FX processor even at stock speeds .
Where games use all available cores the i3's stronger individual cores do not compensate for that .

When an online game has a lot of players in the map then the i3 isnt even close .
Game benchmarks published on websites are always single player and on clean computers . Something that never happens in the real world
 
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fx-6300 would be a btter choice if he plans on record his gameplay.
i3 4160 beats fx-6300 in 95% of games in single player
we were already debating how i3 perfroms in online compared to fx-6300 and i posted online benchmark that proved that i3 doesnt choke in multiplayer its about he same as fx-6300 maybe 2-3fps less, so for gaming id still get i3
 
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Interestingly the only online benchmarks I have seen published were all played on empty servers with no other players in the map so in effect they were actually just single player with some latency .

Both platforms have advantages . I just believe that most people play online most of the time rather than single player
 
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Here is one Multiplayer benchmark

as you can see i3 3240 is 8fps behinde fx-6300, so i think i3 4160 which is better than i3 3240 would be about 3fps behinde which is not bad if you look at some single player games where i3 destroys fx-6300

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battlefield-3-Spiel-18708/Specials/Battlefield-3-Multiplayer-Tipps-CPU-Benchmark-1039293/
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i3-4160-vs-Intel-Core-i3-3240
 
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I cant read german well enough to understand exactly how that test was set up .
But yes thats pretty typical of what i see when I run computers like this .
At stock speed .

OC the FX 6300 the margin opens up .
Since anyone can get a good OC with an FX 6300 using AMD's software , and since it costs less than an i3 its a no brainer . You'd always pick the FX
 
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i dont understand german good either i used google translate for whole site :D, the test was on 64-player servers with at leats 60 people playing.

But for OC fx-6300 you need a good board which start at about 80$ and you would also need better CPU cooler that another 30$, and for that money you could get non haswell refresh i5 4440 and h81 chipset motherboard
 
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You can get very decent OC's on the FX processor with a $60 board and the stock cooler . 4 Ghz is easy. It will be loud under load though .
To give you an idea what is possible I use an Asrock Extreme4 with 4+1 power phases and can hit 4.6 Ghz just using AMD's software and with cool'n'quiet still enabled . I dont use the stock cooler . I use a Scythe Ninja 3 I recycled from my previous build . I expect it will be useful in the next couple of builds too .

If you pay a little more and add a cooler to a budget build it costs out like this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($96.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $170.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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If you do go down the i5/ H81 path then you lose too many options . H81 board have zero features . They are all even limited to two RAM slots
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $214.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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if i were to decide getting fx-6300 with possibilty OC or i5 with h81 wi ould save some money and get i5 with h81. thats just me i never usde more than 2 ram slots or absurd amount of HDD max 2 i am simple person. But what i am really interested how much perfromace you would get in games in multiplayer with OC fx-6300, because in alot of single players games you gain almost nothing with OC fx-6300
 
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My FX at 4.2 Ghz + 8 gigs of RAM + gigabyte radeon 7870 OC [ r9 270] gives me 50 - 65 FPS in BF4 on high settings 1080p in 64 player maps .
Basically its maxing out my 60 Hz monitor

AMD's Gaming Evolved recommends Ultra settings where I get more consistent 40 - 45 fps

Is AMD's FX 6300 a good choice for a gamer? Hell yes .

 
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