I am looking to upgrade to an ssd from a hdd. Yes I know any sad will be a huge performance boost.I know the Samsung 850 evo and SanDisk extreme pro are the top performers right now, but are there any faster ones that are coming out anytime soon? Or are there any that are out that I don't know about and are faster that are under $400. Thanks so much for any suggestions.
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any new ssd's coming out anytime soon?
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IntelTurtleFan
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Samsung 850 EVO and PRO are currently the best. I have not heard of any new ones coming out that will be as good as those.
Solandri
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Just get one now. The price/performance ratio of the Samsung 850 EVO is hard to beat.
The thing you have to understand about SSDs (and HDDs for that matter) is that they're measured in MB/s. Unfortunately MB/s is the inverse of how we perceive storage speed - as wait time. This means the bigger MB/s gets, the less it matters. If you need to read 1 GB of sequential data:
125 MB/s HDD = 8 sec
250 MB/s SATA 2 SSD = 4 sec
500 MB/s SATA 3 SSD = 2 sec
1 GB/s PCIe SSD = 1 sec
See how each doubling of MB/s results in only half the reduction in wait time of the previous step? The bigger MB/s gets, the less it matters in how we perceive storage speed. Coming from a HDD, a SATA 3 SSD will give you a 6 sec reduction in wait time. If you wait a couple years for a NVMe PCIe SSD, you'll only see a 7 sec reduction in wait time. Or put another way, a SATA 3 SSD you get today will give you 86% of the speedup compared to if you wait another year or two for a NVMe PCIe SSD. Not (500-125)/(1000-125) = .428 = 43% like you'd expect if you erroneously calculate with MB/s.
On top of this, most read/writes to a drive are not sequential (unless you do something like real-time video editing). Most of your read/writes are going to be better reflected by the 512k and 4k speeds of the drive. For SSDs those are currently around 200-300 MB/s and 30-70 MB/s respectively. In other words, even SATA 2 is good enough. Real-world comparisons of SATA 2 vs SATA 3 bear this out - there's very little to be gained by moving to SATA 3, never mind PCIe.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sata-6gbps-performance-sata-3gbps,3110-7.html
SSD sequential benchmarks are rapidly becoming like memory benchmarks, which show dramatic 30%-50% improvements with each generation. But which only translate into 1%-2% improvements in real-world tasks. Unless you do nothing with your computer but run benchmarks (edit: or rrun tasks heavily dependent on sequential speeds), you're better off ignoring the sequential benchmark speeds.
The thing you have to understand about SSDs (and HDDs for that matter) is that they're measured in MB/s. Unfortunately MB/s is the inverse of how we perceive storage speed - as wait time. This means the bigger MB/s gets, the less it matters. If you need to read 1 GB of sequential data:
125 MB/s HDD = 8 sec
250 MB/s SATA 2 SSD = 4 sec
500 MB/s SATA 3 SSD = 2 sec
1 GB/s PCIe SSD = 1 sec
See how each doubling of MB/s results in only half the reduction in wait time of the previous step? The bigger MB/s gets, the less it matters in how we perceive storage speed. Coming from a HDD, a SATA 3 SSD will give you a 6 sec reduction in wait time. If you wait a couple years for a NVMe PCIe SSD, you'll only see a 7 sec reduction in wait time. Or put another way, a SATA 3 SSD you get today will give you 86% of the speedup compared to if you wait another year or two for a NVMe PCIe SSD. Not (500-125)/(1000-125) = .428 = 43% like you'd expect if you erroneously calculate with MB/s.
On top of this, most read/writes to a drive are not sequential (unless you do something like real-time video editing). Most of your read/writes are going to be better reflected by the 512k and 4k speeds of the drive. For SSDs those are currently around 200-300 MB/s and 30-70 MB/s respectively. In other words, even SATA 2 is good enough. Real-world comparisons of SATA 2 vs SATA 3 bear this out - there's very little to be gained by moving to SATA 3, never mind PCIe.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sata-6gbps-performance-sata-3gbps,3110-7.html
SSD sequential benchmarks are rapidly becoming like memory benchmarks, which show dramatic 30%-50% improvements with each generation. But which only translate into 1%-2% improvements in real-world tasks. Unless you do nothing with your computer but run benchmarks (edit: or rrun tasks heavily dependent on sequential speeds), you're better off ignoring the sequential benchmark speeds.
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do some research on the samsung sm951 - the AHCI version is currently available and the NVMe version is about to be released
compare the read / write speeds to any sata SSD - easily 3-4 times faster
i've got a first gen xp941, - read 1180 MB/s & write speed of 860 MB/s - rendering video files, time went down to 35-40% of former times rendering on a sata SSD
yeah, installing windows and running the PCIe SSDs is somewhat laborius, but once done, well worth the effort
as the NVMe version is about to release, the AHCI version price has tumbled - the 256 GB variant is about $206 on amazon, the 512 GB variant approx $375, so they're a little pricier than a sata SSD
compare the read / write speeds to any sata SSD - easily 3-4 times faster
i've got a first gen xp941, - read 1180 MB/s & write speed of 860 MB/s - rendering video files, time went down to 35-40% of former times rendering on a sata SSD
yeah, installing windows and running the PCIe SSDs is somewhat laborius, but once done, well worth the effort
as the NVMe version is about to release, the AHCI version price has tumbled - the 256 GB variant is about $206 on amazon, the 512 GB variant approx $375, so they're a little pricier than a sata SSD
IntelTurtleFan
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850 Pro (I have both 850 Evo's and 840 Pro's excellent drives). Sandisk do not last as long from what I hear.
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I normally recommend Samsung solid state drives. They perform very well and have a proven track record. The Samsung 850 Pro SATA 3 6Gb/s ssd is probably Samsung's best 2.5 inch ssd and comes with a 10 year warranty. Intel and SanDisk are also definitely worth considering.
I maintain an ssd database listed in a sticky at the very top of this forum section. Here is the link:
http://www.johnnylucky.org/data-storage/ssd-database.html
Scroll down to the SATA 3 6Gb/s section and look for the brands and models you are interested in. Follow the links to the technical reviews. There are reviews in English and many other languages.
The new ssd's you have heard about are the M.2 and PCI-e ssd's that use a motherboard's PCI-e channels to improve performance. You would have to have a newer motherboard and chipset that support those ssd's.
SanDisk, Plextor, OCZ, SK Hynix, and Zotac have announced new models but it may be some time before they are available. In Europe, Goodram has a new model available. In addition, there is a new ssd company in the United Kingdom but I can't remember the name. In Asia, SitaKings released a new model.
In the meantime enthusiasts have been waiting for a major player in the ssd market to release a retail version of an M.2/PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe ssd. Enthusiasts may be in for a pleasant surprise next month.
I maintain an ssd database listed in a sticky at the very top of this forum section. Here is the link:
http://www.johnnylucky.org/data-storage/ssd-database.html
Scroll down to the SATA 3 6Gb/s section and look for the brands and models you are interested in. Follow the links to the technical reviews. There are reviews in English and many other languages.
The new ssd's you have heard about are the M.2 and PCI-e ssd's that use a motherboard's PCI-e channels to improve performance. You would have to have a newer motherboard and chipset that support those ssd's.
SanDisk, Plextor, OCZ, SK Hynix, and Zotac have announced new models but it may be some time before they are available. In Europe, Goodram has a new model available. In addition, there is a new ssd company in the United Kingdom but I can't remember the name. In Asia, SitaKings released a new model.
In the meantime enthusiasts have been waiting for a major player in the ssd market to release a retail version of an M.2/PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe ssd. Enthusiasts may be in for a pleasant surprise next month.
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