Cooler Master HAF or Fractal R4?

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I cant afford Fractal R5 but R4 I can.
I will be overclocking both my cpu and gpu ( 4690k and R9 390 Sapphire ) so I need something with good airflow.
I know that HAF one has both usb 3.0 and 2.0 and I absolutely need that.
That is all thank you all for help!
 
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The enthoo pro m only comes with a single rear exhaust fan so you'd have to buy intake fans for it. It does have usb ports, not only will the motherboard offer usb ports at the back of the case the pro m has 2 usb ports along the side of the front panel. Usb 3.0 are backward compatible so just like usb 2.0 are 2.0/1.1 compatible, usb 3.0 are 3.0/2.0/1.1 compatible.

The define r4 isn't a bad case but the front cover design may reduce airflow a bit. The haf 912 only has room for a single intake fan and it's known to be a pretty small mid tower case. The smaller the case the faster heat can build up from overclocked components. Another case that may be worth looking into if the enthoo pro m + cost of adding fans is too high for your...
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I dont need silence that much as I'm going to be using my headset all the time when gaming I just need good airflow,usb 2.0 ( and if possible a side window ).
 
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I would probably go for the define r4 but it's a matter of personal preference. You may also want to check for price and availability of the phanteks enthoo pro m. Not sure what region you're in other than you're using euro as currency. Prices can vary from one place to another. Also not sure which haf case you're comparing it to, there's the haf 912, haf 922, haf 932 etc. Haf is their 'high air flow' designation and is a group of cases with different models.
 
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Oh its HAF 912 but if r4 has good airflow because I'll be overclocking both cpu and gpu I'll be going with that also I'm buying from Germany (amazon.de).
And phanteks enthoo pro m ( is it ATX? ) has no usb 2.0 ports.
So should r4 be good for airflow and all that? or should I go with haf 912 as it stays for high airflow and thats what I've been loking for?
Appreciate the help!
 
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haf just dont compete against the define R series. they dont have removable cages. which will go a long way to increasing air flow in the case.
fact is at 1 time haf were considered decent but since fractal came along and showed every 1 how an air flow case should be. cooler master and the likes look old hat.
not only that the fractal cases are ultimately designed by enthusiasts who wanted something that the typical manufacturers weren't giving.
so they have basic features like room behind the motherboard tray for cable management, modular design on the drive trays. none of which cooler mater haf has.
seriously i just built a mate a streaming rig in 1 of the fractal 1300 series and it was an absolute joy to work in. i didnt have to fight the motherboard to get it to line up with the rear i/o port, cables were for the most part were easily routed behind the motherboard and while the hdd mounting was novel it actually made sense air flow wise.
ultimately i give it a 9/10 for ease of access and build-ability.
so yeah go for the fractal.
 
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The enthoo pro m only comes with a single rear exhaust fan so you'd have to buy intake fans for it. It does have usb ports, not only will the motherboard offer usb ports at the back of the case the pro m has 2 usb ports along the side of the front panel. Usb 3.0 are backward compatible so just like usb 2.0 are 2.0/1.1 compatible, usb 3.0 are 3.0/2.0/1.1 compatible.

The define r4 isn't a bad case but the front cover design may reduce airflow a bit. The haf 912 only has room for a single intake fan and it's known to be a pretty small mid tower case. The smaller the case the faster heat can build up from overclocked components. Another case that may be worth looking into if the enthoo pro m + cost of adding fans is too high for your budget, there's the antec three hundred two. It doesn't have a side window though, not sure if that's a deal breaker or not.

http://www.amazon.de/Antec-Three-Hundred-Two-Full-Tower/dp/B006TVQTHW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1440723881&sr=8-6&keywords=PC-Geh%C3%A4use

It gives some good results in cooling performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5462/antec-three-hundred-two-stay-cool-budget-enthusiasts/6

The budget leaves a bit left over to add a case fan or two to it. When looking at cases, many come with at least 1-2 fans, others come with several. With 1-2 fans you may have to add fans to it for optimal cooling. Cases that come in around this budget can have up to 5 fans pre installed but being realistic I wouldn't expect much out of them. 2-3, even 4 higher quality fans actually capable of moving some decent air are better than 5 cheap and likely weak airflow fans. If you decided to go for the half 912 it may need higher airflow fans (more cfm) since there's only 1 intake fan for 2 overclocked components.

Out of those, for airflow the enthoo pro m would probably be my first choice with the antec coming in second (only because it lacks a side window). If you can include it in your budget, a couple of 120mm or 140mm fans like the arctic f12 or f14 pwm, noctua redux p14s pwm.

http://www.amazon.de/ARCTIC-F14-PWM-gesteuerter-Hochleistungs-Geh%C3%A4usel%C3%BCfter-Standard-Geh%C3%A4use/dp/B00980K6KW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1440725321&sr=8-3&keywords=140mm+PC-L%C3%BCfter

http://www.amazon.de/Noctua-NF-P14s-redux-1500-PWM/dp/B00KF7O58G/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1440725767&sr=8-10&keywords=noctua+140mm+PC-L%C3%BCfter

Adding a couple of good quality higher airflow fans you're looking at around 20-30 euro. The least expensive that would still push good air are probably the arctic f12 120mm version.
 
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