synphul :
Sighs are for drama class
The op has a speculative build, not a current build so it's not too late to help them prevent making mistakes that could cost them performance. Why not get a 9590 with a custom water loop and put an r7 240 with it, makes little sense. Considering 8350/gtx 960 won't keep up with an i5/970 and the price is the same, why wouldn't someone opt for that?
If the psu performed like a tier 2 it would be a tier 2. That's like saying well amd has second tier cpu's but they perform like top tier. They're tiered for a reason even if it is a generalized rating system. No need to load a case up with all those fans, especially if running a cooler i5 build.
As far as the gpu's, 1080p, ac unity - a 960 will struggle to get 35fps on low details, the 970 will get 72fps. Far cry 4, 960 can't quite keep up to 60fps while the 970 manages 86fps and the min fps doesn't fall below 60 which may make a difference on a 60hz monitor. The 970 is consistently in the 60fps + range at 1080, usually with high/ultra details while the 960 hovers closer to the 40-45fps range.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-4.html
The 970 I included in that build is the superclocked acx, in bf4 it outperforms the 290. Same in crysis 3, bioshock infinite, skyrim, gta v, witcher 3, metro last light. Keeping in mind the gpu performance tests are done on an intel cpu, pair it with an fx cpu and the fps are going to drop a bit further.
Additional bench's available from the dropdown menu.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/6
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-4.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page6.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/1006-the-witcher-3-benchmarks/page4.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-and-980-reference-review,16.html
No one is forcing the op to consider an alternate build but it might be in their best interest for performance. I like a cool looking pc as much as the next person, but I spend more time on the screen than I do admiring the case/build. I do find it a bit funny that after berating others for suggesting alternate option, the very next thing is - an alternate build.
In terms of watercooling, it can be an experience/hobby if building a custom loop. If using an aio it's no different than attaching an air cooler and if there's no significant gains to be had by it or detrimental reason requiring it the high cost may as well go into parts that will actually improve performance. Air cooler, aio liquid cooler, ln2 - none are going to make the fx chips better performers. A stronger cpu and gpu on the other hand will.
I never force people to choose the builds I suggest to them but I don't get any satisfaction leading them to blow money on parts that aren't going to improve their experience. Sometimes people just don't know, someone told them amd is better bang for the buck or intel's too expensive or any number of things. If they have all the information to consider rather than half the information they at least stand a chance of making an informed choice. My advice is free and folks are welcome to take it or leave it. It's just one of many suggestions along with that of others. I do know if it were me in that position and someone had reasonable information showing me how to get significantly better performance for the same price I would appreciate them telling me before I bought the parts.
Thanks for all the replies, everyone. You're actually frustrating me more than
actually helping me. >_< I'm on a fixed budget at the moment so I can't buy
expensive $400+ cards, expensive processors, etc etc. I may upgrade parts later
in the future, aside from the specs I listed earlier. But for now I need
something that isn't so complicated, know what I mean? I've changed my mind so
many times in the last month, deciding on parts to get. All I want to do is
game and stream; that's it! I don't need anything that is "overkill". Now, the
situation right now is that I was planning on giving my best friend my i5 2500k
processor, nvidia 560 Ti card, 8GB of RAM, and Antec 650W PSU, and just buy
myself a cheap AMD processor, mobo and video card. However, seeing as you guys
are saying that I'd be better off with a i5 processor, then I'll probably just
keep my i5 2500k and get a mobo for it. I did VERY well on my last initial
build before my mobo crapped out and could play just about anything at very
high settings, too. Here were my old specs:
-Case: Enermax Ostrog GT mid tower
-Mobo: HP (don't know the model of it)
-CPU: i5 2500k @ 3.3Ghz
-GPU: MSI nvidia 560 Ti twin frozr II @ 1GB
-PSU: Antec 650W
-RAM: 10GB 1333
-Fans: front (2 x 140mm preinstalled), top (2 x 120mm) and exhaust
Seeing as how the Nvidia 560 Ti did me so well, I need a decent budget upgrade
to the 560 Ti. I don't need something as expensive as a 970 cause that's too
much on my budget. Keep in mind that I do live in Canada, so the prices you may
provide me will have to be Canadian currency ONLY. I may just go with this
build instead, just to save me the anxiety:
-Case: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?
Item=N82E16811124156&cm_re=enermax_ostrog_gt-_-11-124-156-_-Product
-Mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?
Item=N82E16813157304&cm_re=asrock_z75_pro3-_-13-157-304-_-Product
-CPU: i5 2500k @ 3.3Ghz
-GPU:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125771
-PSU:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
-RAM: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?
Item=N82E16820231428&cm_re=g._skill-_-20-231-428-_-Product
-Cooler: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx? (my friend has a NH-D14 and may give that to me instead)
Item=N82E16835103099&cm_re=cooler_master_212-_-35-103-099-_-Product
-Top fan:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103073
I just want to game, stream and overclock! NOTHING MORE ^^