PC build from scratch (1100 Euros budget)

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Hello everyone :)
Since I'm planning to build a new PC for myself from scratch, and nearly every google search so far led me to tomshardware, I decided to post here to get in conversation with you guys so I can optimize my build.

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So here comes the template:

Approximate Purchase Date: during the next 2 or 3 weeks

Budget Range: around 1100 Euros

System Usage from Most to Least Important: daily use is: browsing the interwebs, using Office, watching movies and organizing files. Additionally I'd like to play games from time to time and I'm also writing code (MatLab, Visual Studio, ...) sometimes. No big video editing and stuff like that.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, multiple



Parts to Upgrade: All

Do you need to buy OS: No, I can get one for free thanks to my university

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None so far

Location: near Heilbronn, Germany

Parts Preferences: NVidia and Intel

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: I want to have at least 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Quiet would be nice, the most recent game I play is GTA 5, but I also want to play the upcoming Need for Speed

Why Are You Upgrading: I do not own a desktop PC anymore and my current laptop is too old/slow

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So now we got the basics. ;-)
The research so far brought up the following parts:

GPU: I'm pretty sure the GTX 970 suites my needs really good.
GTX 970

CPU: I was thinking about getting the i7 4790k.
i7 4790k

Memory: Not decided yet whether I should take 16 GB or "just" 8 GB. But was thinking about DDR3, not DDR4. For example:
Crucial Ballistix Sport

Motherboard: I don't know... Of course it needs the 1150 socket, PCIe 3.0 x16 and DDR3 Slots. For example: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3

Storage: For now I plan to go only with a SSD. I have plenty of space available on external drives and do not need that much data on this PC. I have picked a 500 GB for now, 250 GB should also be fine, but then I probably have to add a HDD.
Crucial BX100

Powersupply/Casing/Fan: Until now I have not made any research about this, maybe you could recommend some parts or makes.

Monitors: I want to use three monitors for this computer. Now I am asking myself whether I should go for one big monitor with two smaller monitors on the side or with three identical midsized monitors?
If I get the second option I also would like to play on all three monitors, otherwise just on the big monitor. Any experience with that and tips for me?

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First of all I want to add that the monitors are excluded from the build budget itself. So they do not count towards the 1100 Euros, but still the budget is quiet tight. Can you recommend parts where I can save money without losing too much performance? Or would you recommend to build it completely different?

Any input is welcome! I'm hoping for a good conversation with you guys and a great result coming out of this!

Cheers! :)
 
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I don't think the more expensive one is worth it. Each of those CPU's will only give marginally better performance than an i5 for games and general desktop stuff, an overclocked i5 will eat them both for breakfast.

With the RAM, anything more than 8GB will likely sit there and do nothing. If I'm wrong and you do use more, it is very easy to upgrade in future so I would stick with 8GB for the moment personally.

You're going to gain very little in gaming and general desktop performance with a Xeon or i7 and 16GB of RAM but you would notice a major difference with a better graphics card. The GTX 970 is good enough for 1440P at the moment but won't be playing at 1440P and ultra settings in a year or two. If your concern is maximum gaming...

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If you prefer three 1080p monitor, then you have to consider a high-end GPU like GTX 980Ti. Means you are tripling the workload on the GPU. For 3x1080p, a single GTX980Ti can play most of games @60 fps on ultra.


But I would prefer to play on 34" 3440x1440 at 21:9 format. But they are damn expensive.You can consider this [ LG 34UM67 34 inch = 580 euro ] if you prefer 21:9 format. Almost half of your budget.


For gaming i7 is overkill. Even for light video editing i5 is good. Since you are not overclocking you should consider a non-k processor like i7 4770 or i7 4790 or i5 4460 or i5 4690.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($75.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.20 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($668.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($90.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1408.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Since you are on tight budget, How about this built. You can play any games at 1440p resolution with a decent 27inch monitor [Asus PB278Q] . This monitor will cost around 350 euro.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($284.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($75.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.20 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 980 4GB STRIX Video Card ($499.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($90.00 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1234.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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You should post prices in Euro and parts from Germany
 

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Best I could do for this budget right now. Could probably make this better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€257.72 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€103.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€88.71 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card (€332.69 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.48 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€78.84 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1075.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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a Xeon 1231 is a locked i7 - no overclocking as you said you wouldn't be. no integrated GPU because you don't need one. a lot cheaper than the i7 with similar performance (as you won't be OCing)

a top notch H97 motherboard from a top brand. - no OCing, obviously.

16 GB RAM for all your programming needs.

an SSD + HDD is always good. SSD for your OS + programs. HDD = all your static data and less used apps.

a 390 has the same performance as that of the 970 but has 8 GB of VRAM. This will be useful as you'd be using multiple monitors.

a 200R is a sufficiently good budget case.

650W of power supply is more than sufficient for your needs. I got more than 550W because the 390 is admittedly more power hungry than the 970

EDIT: some would say that the Samsung EVO 850 is much better. So here, just in case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€257.72 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€103.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€88.71 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€107.34 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card (€332.69 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.48 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€78.84 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1090.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Don't know if it's worth the extra money as you won't notice the performance difference.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-Crucial-MX200-250GB/2977vs3196
 
If you want to play across 3 monitors I'd put as much cash as you can towards the GPU. The added resolution doesn't really tax the CPU much more, mainly the GPU.

An i5 should be more than fine for these purposes, you would have little gain from an i7. It tends to give roughly 10% more performance in games than the i5 equivalent for 40-50% more cash.

8GB RAM is more than enough as well for standard desktop tasks and gaming, just get a motherboard that can hold 4 RAM sticks and has a max of 16GB just in case and you can just upgrade in future.

If you want extreme quietness I'd go for this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (€185.08 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCKTN-4000 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€29.43 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€76.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€47.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€85.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (€366.05 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (€51.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€80.12 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan (€19.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan (€13.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12B redux-1200 PWM 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan (€13.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Other: 4 Way PWM Splitter (€7.70)
Total: €978.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 22:22 CEST+0200


I'd set the graphics card to its silent mode so the fans don't spin unless the card starts to get hot and I'd remove the case fans. I'd put the Noctua F12 as an intake on the bottom of the case and the 2 x Noctua S12's as dual exhausts on the top. I'd plug the CPU fan and those 3 Noctuas into that 4 way PWM fan splitter and plug the splitter into the CPU fan slot on the motherboard. This means all of the case fans and the CPU fan will slow down and speed up based on the temperature of your CPU, at idle they will be running at 300-400RPM which is pretty much inaudible. That PSU should be super quiet as well as it is very efficient and it is a Seasonic, they usually make quiet PSU's.

That means at idle the loudest thing in the case will probably be the PSU fan and that probably runs at around 600RPM at idle, that's extremely quiet. You should know that the GTX 970 is good value but you won't be running the newest games across 3 1080P on ultra high settings with it.
 

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Wow, thank you all for the new input. :)

I now consider the triple monitor gaming idea as buried. Because I cannot spent around 600 Euros just on the GPU with a total budget of 1100 Euros. Also I'm not so into gaming that I want to spend so much money on this.

Instead I will focus on one big monitor (for example this LG 29") to play the games on. And two smaller ones on the side that I can use for desktop applications and movies (for example this Asus 24").

Do you think the GTX970 will be able to handle those three monitors when gaming is limited to the big one?
Gaming still should be on fullHD resolution and high to ultra settings at good fps (for example GTA 5).
 

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Sorry I forgot the other parts...

CPU: Since every one of you told me that the i7-4790k is not needed. I will have a look on the Xeon E3-1231 V3, it sounds like a great deal. The i5 is quiet cheap, but do you think it is futureproof with the 3.2 Ghz and no hyper threading? What do you think about the i7-4790, since I'm not planning to OC? I guess it's more futureproof or am I wrong?

SSD: Does anyone has experience whether the Samsung 850 Evo is worth the additional money compared to the Crucial BX100?

Memory: I think I will start with 1x8GB and if I get the feeling its not enough I just will add a second one. Is Crucial a good/reliable make? I personally never have heard of it. Corsair sound more familiar.

Motherboard: When I'm not going to OC I can pick a H97 chipset and for OC it needs to be Z97? Just for my understanding. Top brand would be e.g. Gigabyte or ASRock?

Powersupply/Casing/Fan: I think I will go with the quiet SeaSonic, if 550W are enough? I also like the idea of the quiet fans with speed based on the temperature.
Is it ok if I pick the cheapest casing or is there anything I am missing then?

Thank you again and good night. :)
 
Futureproof is a bit of a funny word really, some people will tell you hyper-threading will make it more futureproof of the way I look at it is that your PC is for gaming, your programming doesn't need anything special in terms of performance. Games still don't utilise more than 4 threads and haven't done so now for a long time, I seriously doubt they will in the next 3-4 years so those extra 4 threads will largely do nothing. They might kick in now and again if you have loads of programs open but I don't think you'd even notice, totally up to you but if I'm spending an extra $100 on performance I want the difference to be noticeable. Games probably will utilise more than 4 threads eventually but I wouldn't gamble the extra $100 on it happening in the next few years.

Both of those SSD's are fine, the difference between the 850 Evo and BX-100 is more reliability than performance. The performance will be very similar but a lot of people prefer the Samsung SSD's because Samsung have been consistently good with SSD's for years now.

Crucial are very well known for memory and give a lifetime warranty like most RAM, they're fine. They don't have the fancy heatspreaders and names like Vengeance, Ripjaws and Savage but that's all for show anyway. Most RAM is made by Micron and just rebranded. I would get 2x4GB so the RAM runs in dual channel mode, similar price but better performance than 1x8GB

Basically yes, Z87/Z97 is designed for overclocking and H87/H97 isn't. ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI and ASRock seem to be the most popular brands nowadays, I haven't really had any significant issues with any of them. I've personally stuck with ASRock because they're usually cheaper and I've had no problems with them whatsoever, I've had a few hiccups with ASUS and MSI. Nothing major but enough to make me not want to spend the extra on their boards.

A build with a stock i7 and GTX 970 is realistically never going to consume more than 300-350W, a quality 450W+ PSU is fine.

If you don't care about looks you could just go for the cheapest case. Personally though the cheapest I'd go for in your shoes is the Fractal Design Core 1300, it has plenty of options for cooling and generally looks good quality.

I should note that you will still have quiet fans based on the temperature with the stock case fans if you just buy a fan controller or a motherboard with good fan control. I just find that PWM fans have a much wider range and go as low as 300RPM when temperature allows. Noctua fans are top notch quality as well.

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You might want to consider this ultrawide monitor
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€257.36 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€103.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€91.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€107.14 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card (€332.69 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.27 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€78.84 @ Mindfactory)
Monitor: Asus MX299Q 29.0" Monitor (€387.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1478.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The R9 390 and GTX 970 are going to give similar performance at 1080P but the R9 390 will be a bit better at resolutions over 1920x1080. They run a lot hotter though so inevitably will be louder. Depends whether price/performance or price/performance/quietness is most important really.
 

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Ok so now I have made two builds, based on my research and your input.

First: I used the recommended Xeon together with a quite cheap, but hopefully powerful enough GTX 970 (Sorry the R9 290 could not convince me).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€257.14 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€93.51 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€61.57 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€185.90 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 970 4GB JetStream Video Card (€393.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.08 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€80.12 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1172.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Second: I stayed with the i7 4790K, the same as above GTX 970 and upgraded RAM to 16GB. This would cost me over my original budget, but I think about investing some more money to not have to upgrade as soon again. For this reason I also decided to take parts where I can consider OC at a later point, just not sure about the Palit GTX regarding this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€351.26 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€99.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€134.73 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€185.90 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Palit GeForce GTX 970 4GB JetStream Video Card (€393.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.08 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€80.12 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1345.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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GPU and Monitors:
Do you think the GTX 970 I picked is powerful enough for gaming on 2560x1080? For example on this monitor? Or are there better ones for this usage? Also I will add two 1920x1080 monitors but they will only be used for desktop, etc. Also I would like to use the DisplayPort on the new monitors, but most of them in this price-range do not support daisy chaining. That's also one reason why I picked this GTX 970, since it has 3 mini-DP outputs.

Would you recommend to change any of the other parts in those setups? And finally do you think the more expensive one is worth it, considering a long-term usage of the computer?
 
I don't think the more expensive one is worth it. Each of those CPU's will only give marginally better performance than an i5 for games and general desktop stuff, an overclocked i5 will eat them both for breakfast.

With the RAM, anything more than 8GB will likely sit there and do nothing. If I'm wrong and you do use more, it is very easy to upgrade in future so I would stick with 8GB for the moment personally.

You're going to gain very little in gaming and general desktop performance with a Xeon or i7 and 16GB of RAM but you would notice a major difference with a better graphics card. The GTX 970 is good enough for 1440P at the moment but won't be playing at 1440P and ultra settings in a year or two. If your concern is maximum gaming performance and lasting as long as possible for gaming and general desktop use I'd look at something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€241.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€83.72 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€47.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€85.79 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 Fury X 4GB Video Card (€670.68 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.03 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€79.54 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1273.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I said 390 8 GB not 290
 

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Sorry @bsod1, I meant to say 390.

Somehow I don't like the idea to spend that much just on the graphics card. So I would like to just stick with the GTX 970 if possible. Also I think the GTX 970 is really good bang-for-the-bucks right now. Sorry to be so obsessed with that...
But otherwise your remarks all make sense and I adjusted your build a bit.
I added a CPU cooler and switched the SSD to the Samsung 850 Evo, because I want to have a really reliable SSD and the price difference is not too high.
Also I replaced the Fury X with a GTX 970 again, this time the MSI Gaming 4G.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€241.64 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€36.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€83.72 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€47.88 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€185.90 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (€350.27)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€64.03 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€79.54 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1089.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-02 22:41 CEST+0200

Questions:
- Is this build something that will work out for me? Since it fits my original budget that would be good.
I would like to explain my gaming habit a bit better. The only recent game I am playing at the moment is GTA 5 and I'm looking forward to the new Need for Speed that is coming up, but otherwise I don't play any other recent games. Often I play rather old games with my friends (in memory of the good old times ^^) like CS 1.6, Warcraft 3, Rise of Nations and so on.
So I think if GTA 5 and the new NFS will run on high/ultra settings at 2560x1080 resolution with decent fps and it's possible to use two extra 1920x1080 screens with this GPU that is enough for me. And if I ever decide to play actual more games in the future that will need a better GPU I still can upgrade then. But for now I hope to be satisfied with the GTX 970, my first 1080p monitors and some decent GTA 5 gameplay.
I hope you can now understand better what I am looking for. :)

- Also I'm still interested in the DisplayPort and daisy chaining thing with the three monitors and the outputs on the graphics card.

- For the memory. As long as the board has free slots left I can simple upgrad by adding some more sticks at any time? Do the RAM sticks need to have the same amount of GB and the same speeds?

Thank you all very much, especially @jmsellars1. Your help is much appreciated!
 

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Okay great. So I can buy the 2 x 4 GB 1333Mhz now and maybe add some in the future, for example also 2 x 8 GB 1600 Mhz. :)

Ah perfect. So now I just have to decide which GTX 970 to take. I think I'll try to get either the MSI or the Palit because the both shut down the fan when not needed. So noise is kept to a minimum.
Here is a comparision of the two.
- I've read that the MSI is performing very good and also is extremely quiet. But it only has one DisplayPort output. Also it is said to be good for OC, is that true? And if so, useful?
- On the other hand the Palit even has a slightly higher frequency and also 3 mini DP outputs.
- The price is nearly the same. But I still need to know if there is a possibility to run three DisplayPort screens, that are not supporting daisy chaining, if the graphics card only has one output (Splitter?) or do I either have to get one with three outputs or look for screens with daisy chaining?

Thanks a lot :)