what does that mean ?6700k and supporting MoBos are in their 1st stepping,??

yafatana · Sep 1, 2015

i read that on the internet
6700k and supporting MoBos are in their 1st stepping, we won't be recommending this platform till around November

what does 1st stepping means for cpu and motherboard ?
and why 1st stepping is not recommend it ??

bios update is not enough ??

gangrel · Sep 1, 2015

1st stepping means it's the first released version. Ergo: it often still needs a few small tweaks here and there. And sometimes more. So stability can be an issue.

yafatana · Sep 1, 2015

if there is a serious proplem
will gigabyte for example accept RMA and give a new one for free via retial shop ??

kanewolf · Sep 1, 2015

yafatana :

An RMA goes back to the manufacturer, the retail supplier is out of the loop.

yafatana · Sep 1, 2015

1-i mean will they send a new free one if there is a proplem in 1st stepping board ??
2-does skylake cpu also has 1st stepping ?? it will get a new improved version ??

kanewolf · Sep 1, 2015

yafatana :

There is no guarantee of either of those things happening. Who ever posted this, is saying that it is safer to WAIT and see what happens. V1 for both of them might be fine. There is no way to predict.

delaro · Sep 1, 2015

Not sure where you got that but with CPU's,Motherboards and GPU's the First generation are released in smaller numbers, normally less than 100K. The Factories and Foundries are still working out any issues they might experience with mass production so these will have the highest amount of Fail rates or possible performance issues. CPU's and GPU's might have possible Thermal and Overclocking issues or just be unstable in certain conditions, Motherboards might fail within 6 months or be DOA more often than buying after they have been out for a few months. I generally wait 3-6 months to make sure I get something that has been later in production.

yafatana · Sep 1, 2015

but most gigabyte motherboards stay at REV 1
and some get REV 1.1 WITH IMPROVED AUDIO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
so what.s the point of waiting 3 months ??

gangrel · Sep 1, 2015

Here's how revision numbers commonly work. A revision number typically looks like X.Y.Z. X is the version number. A wholly new version number means extensive changes, and often new features. Y is the major revision number. A major revision won't introduce new features, but may include significant changes or fixes to existing features. Z is the minor revision number. This is a small, usually isolated adjustment, tweak, bug fix, or what-have-you. There's no absolute boundary between these. In CPUs, stepping serves a similar role. The stepping relates to updates to the CPU firmware.

I can't speak to whether Gigabyte commonly stays at version 1...but is it 1.0.0? Perhaps not.

Also, and the bigger factor: for the last few years, I don't believe there have been *dramatic* changes in motherboards. With Skylake...there most definitely are. DDR4 is brand new. Higher-speed USB. Same with the Skylake processors; it's got more architectural and functional changes. So the risk of problems is higher.

EDIT: also, there's *serious* marketing pressure to get the boards out. That always involves more risk that the engineers haven't had the time to find all the issues.

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