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I need some help please if possible.
My old hardware is:
- Python mobo
- Intel i7 950
- Radeon HD 4650 card
- 18GB RAM @ 1600 speed

My new hardware is:
- Asus A88XM-A mobo
- AMD A10-6790k
- integrated Radeon HD 8670
- Catalyst Control Center to tweak and modify all types of settings
- 16GB RAM @ 2133 speed

First of all, I hope that is an UPGRADE to the graphics, even though they are integrated? Every site I look on to compare the quality of Radeon HD 4650 with Radeon HD 8670 says that the latter is superior.

The upgrade went smoothly and my pc is much faster. My problem is that, with all of the new default settings, my gaming quality (need for speed, MOH, etc....) is choppy, a bit blurry, and WORSE than it was with my old gear.

I realize this could be a lot of things, but I'm wondering were to start testing or tweaking things. I thought that out of the box, the gaming graphics quality would at LEAST be as good as my old gear. When i added that Radeon HD 4650 card to my old setup several years ago, i never tweaked a thing.....it just was BETTER.

I'm not a noob, but not advanced either. Can anyone help maybe?

thanks!
 
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You woulda been much better off buying a GPU with all the money you just invested into that AMD APU. There is no comparison in terms of gaming with the i7 950 and the A10-6790k, the i7 kills it. Shoulda bought yourself a GTX 970 and called it a day.
 
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In CCC check out the Gaming > *Application* --- 'Add' (to identify your individual games). You may configure your individual game settings from there, and configure your 'global' game settings..

The integrated graphics of the A10-6790k (386 'Turks Pro' cores) is faster than the 'discreet' HD 4650. Be sure to set an appropriate level of 'shared' memory for your gaming.

Jeez. Way to not to help the guy :sarcastic:
 
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Thanks Wise!! I know that i didn't make a mistake upgrading (contrary to vrumors comments). Because my pc is faster now for things that i do for work (databases, vpns, etc...). My pc isn't a dedicated GAMING pc, so i already factored that in. So, are you saying that my old graphics CARD (because it IS indeed a card) is a "discreet" HD 4650? I never saw "discreet" that written anywhere, so i'm just not familiar with that term. And.....if it IS, then the integrated graphics in my new A10-6790k IS indeed faster? And, hence, i should follow your recommendations in CCC and begin tweaking in there?

thanks for the help!

 
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... So, are you saying that my old graphics CARD (because it IS indeed a card) is a "discreet" HD 4650? I never saw "discreet" that written anywhere, so i'm just not familiar with that term. And.....if it IS, then the integrated graphics in my new A10-6790k IS indeed faster?
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Yes. 'Discreet' simply means the system graphics are driven by a card plugged into a slot on the motherboard.

If you wish to follow the logic ... the 'discreet' Radeon HD 5570 is faster than the HD 4650 and the integrated HD 7660D on the Trinity APU is faster than the HD 5570.

The Radeon HD 8670D on your 'Richland' APU is a faster-clocked updated version of the integrated HD 7660D on the Trinity APU.

From the looks of things, you should be seeing a nice boost in your gaming. Hopefully, using the Application settings in CCC will help you realize those gains.


edit: I fergit ....

Be sure to set the proper level of memory dedicated to the APU graphics ... I can't recall if that is done in CCC, or possibly in your BIOS.

 
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Thanks Wise. Makes sense now. I'm not seeing any place to change SHARED MEMORY (or video memory) in the BIOS. So, now I have a silly question: In CCC, I don't even have have AMD OVERDRIVE enabled yet. Is that a first-step no-brainer that I should have enabled before I can do anything at all?!?!?!? That has to do with overclocking, right? My thought was to first address the issue of SHARE MEMORY like you said. But again, I cannot find any info on how to change/set the shared memory for my APU. Couldn't find it in the BIOS at all. So, I am still trying to figure this out.............

thanks for the help.
 
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... My thought was to first address the issue of SHARE MEMORY like you said. But again, I cannot find any info on how to change/set the shared memory for my APU. Couldn't find it in the BIOS at all. So, I am still trying to figure this out.............
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pg 2-19 of the manual :)

Advanced Mode > [2.6.4] NB Configuration > Integrated Graphics > Set to [Force] ..... Then, in 'UMA Frame Buffer Size' you may set the config up to [2GB]

AMD OverDrive (AOD) is a must-have. Under the 'CPU Status' tab you will find the CPU **Thermal Margin** VCore and clock-speed. The 'Turbo' speeds will jump into the 'RED' during stability testing, and you may observe 'core-throttling' during 100% loads when over-clocking (Note: The core-throttling may be disabled via the 'APM' function)

The *Thermal Margin* in AOD is the most accurate way to judge your temps -- 3rd party utilities typically work like sheet on APU temps.
 
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Wow.....I'm a sorry excuse! Maybe I am a noob after all :ouch: I found it now, and will make those changes. Thanks for the help Wise!

 
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Ok. Now I gotta lay it all out there! I made the changes to the BIOS and it went perfectly. But I have not yet enabled or configure AMD Overdrive......and......I'm not noticing any improvement to the gaming graphics. So, AMD Overdrive setup involves overclocking, right? I am familiar with overclocking, but I wasn't under the impression - when I bought my new gear - that I would HAVE to overclock in order to take advantage of the upgraded graphics that I am getting by using the integrated HD 8670D graphics. I was thinking that I would see the perf increase just by using them stock/defaults. But if you are saying that AMD Overdrive is a MUST, then I guess I was wrong. Is that the case, Wise?

thanks again for all of the help here!

 
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You don't have to OC ... you do need AOD for accurate temp readings, and sometimes the VCore reading. And, you should see a noticeable increase in your gaming (all things being equal: resolution, settings, etc).

I came across this thread from Toms and did not want to bring it up unless your problems continued.

There may be an issue with the digital-outs (HDMI / DVI) on your Asus A88XM-A motherboard. It seems a big issue with the Kaveri APUs but not sure how that may effect you. It may be worth the effort to start a trouble ticket with Asus (just in case ... ) and see what input they may provide.

I guess it is conceivable that the graphics engine on the A10-6790k APU could be a bit dodgy, too. I've had 1 (out of a dozen or more) that one day decided to go bonkers. It worked, but simply would not enable Aero (which had worked flawlessly for 4-5 months) no matter the work-arounds, drivers and updates I tried.

In the 'Clock/Voltage' tab in AOD you may adjust the clock speed of the graphics engine. You may want to tweak on the clock speed a bit (down and up) and see how that impacts the 'blur' and choppiness. You may also want to switch-around your RAMs between different slots, and even drop back to 8GB to see if it helps. Even a memory stress test may be in order.

What vendor on your RAMs? Are they on the Asus QVL list ? If they are on the QVL and otherwise functioning normally, that would certainly narrow things down to the mobo or the graphics engine.



 
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uh oh! I could have sworn I checked the QVL, but not sure now. My mem is G.SKILL TridentX Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9D-16GTX. 2 sticks.....8 each. Plus....i dont have Kaveri.

 
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Hey Wisecracker! Just wanted to update the thread. Still having problems with choppy graphics, but i made some progress on settings I think. I performed a mem stress test and my mem looks good. The bios shows 2133 speed, and in AMD Overdrive under Clock/Voltage i OC'd the GPU clock to 1002MHZ. And in AMD Overdrive under GPU status, it shows "Engine" as 1002MHz as it should i would think. However........under GPU status "Memory" it shows as 1066MHz. Shouldn't that show as 2133MHz?

thanks for any help.
 
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Memory is double-pumped meaning that your speed is 1066MHz x 2

1000MHz for an APU graphics engine seems really fast --- though the APU is certainly capable of running at those clocks. The stock speed for the graphics engine is 844MHz.

Your memory speed and timings is much more important than the APU graphics clock speed. Sometimes, you have to go slower to speed up :)

Walk back the clock speed of the APU graphics engine and see what impact that has on your issues.



 
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Thanks. I did indeed walk back the graphics engine to 844 where it belongs. I just now realized that my A88XM-A mobo will not allow mem oc. And i believe that i AM running @ 2133 mem speed based what AMD OD and the BIOS say. So........i think I'm going to put this Saphhire 7770 card that i bought a while ago into the pc. It surely should be better, right? (i was counting on returning it for a refund if i could get this HD8670 integrated graphics to work better than it is now). How can i post my bios and AMD OD screenshots?

 
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The HD 7770 should work just dandy if you do not return it. It may be worth starting a trouble ticket with Asus or AMD on the A10-6790k, or not, if they give you the run-around.

The image icon is beside the link icon in the tool bar. The image should be up-loaded to a storage site like Photobucket and then you may use the image icon --- you cannot directly up-load an image to Toms.
 
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