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So I was given a computer for free today, And I had no idea what the specs were until i booted it up, and it turns out it has a 3770, 8Gb Ram, 500 GB HDD, Some intel motherboard, and a cooler masterrs-500-pcarl3 (360 watt) power supply. So basically, I am looking for a gpu that will run well with this system, preferably nvidia, (so I dont have to upgrade power supply)... I was wondering if a gtx 970 would be good to run in this system? I am really only concerned about power draw, and how close I will get to that 360 watt threshhold. thanks
also looking to spend around $400 cad. I would also buy used.
 
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If you don't want to upgrade the power supply the best card you can use would be a GTX 750 ti for around $180 CAD. If you upgrade the power supply to a good quality 550 watt unit from XFX for around $90 CAD you could get a GTX 960 for around $275 CAD for a total of about $365-375 CAD. This assumes your motherboard has a PCIe X16 2.0 slot and you have enough room from the back of the case to the hard drive cages for the length of the video card to fit. I have no information for you on buying used parts.
 
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I think I might just pick up a used corsair hx620w power supply on craigslist, as well as a used gtx 780... for a total of only $340. would these two items go well together?

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/sop/5190958853.html
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rch/sop/5188252215.html
 
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The Corsair HX620W is powerful enough for the GTX 780 and gets a decent review at JG-
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=21

Remember there is some risk buying used parts. Buyer beware.
You need to determine if you have the space available for the video card in your case and if the motherboard has a slot for the card. You'll probably have to open and look and maybe measure with a tape to see if the card will fit unless you have the specs of the case.
 
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it will. I have a micro atx mobo, and it looks like there is about 11 or 12 inches in length before it becomes a problem

 
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The preferably Nvidia comment make no sense. It should of course be preferably low power demand.

A R9 380 is more powerful than a GTX 960 is use very little more electricity for instance.

As for GTX 750Ti being "the only" one I don't know. Check claimed PSU requirement for GTX 950 too for instance.

Also I wonder if AMD didn't brag that .. Nano? used less power than GTX 980 but still being as good or something.
 
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sorry that i didnt make myself clear, but i was trying to say that I would rather have an nvidia card because they normally consume less power, are quieter, and are more energy efficient.

 
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are the cx versions of corsair decent power supplies? I have found some cx600's, cx750's on craigslist that are reasonably priced. wondering if they will be ok to run with possibly a gtx titan (I know someone that is selling for $400)

 
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CX power supplies are great when they're new. 6 months later their cheap chinese capacitors start to fail. Such are the stories around here on Corsair power supplies. I do not recommend them under any circumstances when there are clearly better options available in the same price range. Find a power supply with all Japanese capacitors and you have something worth considering.
 
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ok which brand or model would you reccomend that is around the 600-750w range that will run me about $80 new?
 
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sorry I didnt let you know that I am in canada. So something around $50 american is ideal. sorry thanks
 
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Actually you did mention $CAD yesterday but I forgot. I can't find anything in that price range that I would recommend. If you have an Intel cpu and a GTX 780 you can use 550-600 watts. Let me see what I can find in that range. The 750's are all way more expensive.
 
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I am possibly meeting this guy today. is it a good psu? thanks
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/sop/5182881700.html
 
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ok thanks. The guy has agreed to $60 so its an even better deal!
 
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Really? How so? I have both cards and I'm not seeing that.
 
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How?

Where I've seen it tested it just have been.
https://youtu.be/NTpNZEW31G0?t=3m40s
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/1984-amd-r9-390-380-benchmark-review/Page-2
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-AMD-R9-380/3165vs3482
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/08/03/amds-radeon-380-replaces-nvidia-gtx-960-as-the-new-1080p-champ/
Much larger performance increase using DX12 on the AMD cards:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/5
This too:
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/212314-directx-12-arrives-at-last-with-ashes-of-the-singularity-amd-and-nvidia-go-head-to-head/2 (see previous page for DX11 performance and a different story.)

Where I've seen it tested it has often been better than the GTX 960 and as we all know drivers isn't AMDs greatest feature and DX12 & asynchronous shaders and computing seem to help them.

Who knows what the future will hold but personally I would say it points at the R9 380 being the stronger card for now at least. It uses more juice in some tests though so feel free to use that against it. On the other hand it has FreeSync support rather than proprietary G-sync, PhysX, G-sync, NVlink and all that s### Nvidia got going on. What I prefer with Nvidia is their drivers but beyong that I'd focus on performance.
 
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Obscure sites mean very little to nothing, same goes for YT vids and the DX12 thing is a bust. :lol:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-will-fully-implement-async-compute-via-driver-support.html

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-there-is-no-such-thing-as-full-support-for-dx12-today.html

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-wanted-oxide-dev-dx12-benchmark-to-disable-certain-settings.html

This program is created by an amateur developer (this is literally his first DX12 program)
Click to expand...

And that's what you are basing future performance on? :lol:
 
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I know it's just one game, or two. Doesn't make it irrelevant. That Nvidia doesn't like it is understandable. Also Nvidia like to "contribute" to big games so..
As for their driver it's not my fault Nvidia is performing worse with it for the moment.

Intel Skylake has the widest support of DirectX 12. I never said AMD had. What they so far has shown is better performance increase with DX12 likely thanks to asynchronous computing - for now.
 
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