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I am planning to build a gaming cpu and so far thought of the following to buy:

asus z97 pro wifi+ ac motherboard <-is this better than msi gaming 7?
msi geforce gtx 970 <- is the other brand better? Are they compatible?
intel core i5-4690k <- what's the difference with i7 in terms of gaming?

I don't have money to buy those high-end components.
I do not have any clue as to the other parts like power supply, please give suggestions.
 
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Alrighty then. Sorry for all the confusion, it's definitely a little tough to switch between currencies and I know that a lot of parts tend to get inflated when transferred across borders. So from here on out we'll shoot for $800-$1000 using PC Express online pricing.

Ok, so we're still going to go with the Asus Strix GTX 970($410). This is the most important part of your gaming build because this is what drives the frame rates you'll see in game, but modern games are also using the processor more and more.

So next, the CPU. I know you want the i5 4690K, but seeing as how we've dropped the budget, you might look into something like the i3 4150. It's a dual core with 4 threads, so it acts like a 4 core CPU and it has a good clock...

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Uhm i'm thinking in the range of 1000$ to 1,500$ though some of the prices may vary since i'm from PH. I'm not really sure about overclocking since i've read that it could damage the system or so, but maybe i'll change my mind next time so I want the option to be open.
Dota 2, dragon nest, but i'd like to try those other new games.

Another thing i'm having hard time about is choosing the brand for the component.
 
asus z97 pro wifi+ ac motherboard <-is this better than msi gaming 7?

Let's compare the differences between the Asus Z97 PRO (Wi-Fi ac) and the Msi Z97 Gaming 7:
Memory: 1333/1600 and (OC) 1866 to 3200 MHz vs 1066/1333/1600 and (OC) 1866 to 3300 MHz
USB 3.0 (Rear Panel): 4 vs 8
HDMI (Rear Panel): 1 vs 2
DVI (Rear Panel): 1 vs None
VGA (Rear Panel): 1 vs None
Multi-GPU (SLI) Support: Quad-GPU SLI vs 2-Way SLI
SATA 6Gb/s (Internal): 6 vs 8
4-Pin Chassis Fan (Internal): 4 vs 3
Wireless Connectivity: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (Dual Band) vs None
Bluetooth: V4.0 vs None
Color Scheme: Black+Gray+Gold vs Black+Red

For me, I would choose the Asus motherboard for it's Wi-Fi and Bluetooth features (because I need it). The 4x 4-pin fans would also probably eliminate the need for fan hubs in case I choose a case with several fans. The Quad-GPU support is nice to have (but I personally won't be going into that route). Couple of VGA and DVI input connections would also help eliminate adapters (in case I will be connecting a monitor with limited VGA or DVI output connections). The slight differences in RAM speed as well as the SATA and USB ports are not too much of a factor for me. The only instance I would probably choose the Msi over the Asus is if the price difference is huge, such that, an Msi + a Wi-Fi Adapter would still be cheaper than the Asus.

msi geforce gtx 970 <- is the other brand better? Are they compatible?

I am not sure what you meant by "the other brand". I'm assuming you are comparing the MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card with the Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either, but for me, I would pick the Msi video card.

The Msi has a slightly higher core clock (1.14GHz) compared with the Asus (1.11GHz). The Msi is slightly shorter in length (269mm) than the Asus (280mm). Although both consume 2 expansion slots when fitted into the PCIe, the Msi is slightly thinner (35mm) compared to the Asus (40mm). Both have the same number of display inputs (a Dual Link DVI-D, a Dual Link DVI-I, an HDMI, and a DisplayPort). One big factor is the difference in the Total Draw Power (TDP), where the Msi only consumes 145W, while the Asus consumes a hefty 225W.

There is a good review of these two cards showing detailed comparison and benchmarks so you'll get a more in-depth idea of their advantages (and disadvantage, if any).

intel core i5-4690k <- what's the difference with i7 in terms of gaming?

If you are comparing the Intel Core i5-4690k (which has a base clock of 3.5GHz) and the Intel Core i7-4790k (which has a base clock of 4.0GHz), then, still, not much (in terms of gaming). For hardcore multi-tasking and (if you are into) 3D rendering, then the 4 Core-8 Threads of the i7 (due to Hyper-Threading Technology) would definitely be a big plus as compared to the 4 Core-4 Threads of the i5 (without Hyper-Threading Technology). On a single-core basis, the i7 is only slightly faster than the i5. This will be evident in most games that does not use multi-cores. With the very steep difference between the price of an i7 (about $280) and the i5 (about $200), you'd be better off saving that 80 bucks and upgrade your other components. So, for me, I would choose the Intel Core i5-4690k for gaming.
I don't have money to buy those high-end components.

I would strongly advice to check around the price-performance values of the different PC components. Then take a long hard thinking about what you REALLY NEED and NOT what you really want. More often than not, it does not take expensive high-end components to satisfy your needs (whether the PC will be used for gaming or for work). Once you have decided on your necessities (not luxuries), you must establish a budget so that you will effectively limit your cash-splurging-galore. This ensures that every piece of equipment you will buy will be the best at your given price point.

Good luck in your build!
 

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An absolutely fantastic advice post. Well done. I think that answered all questions very well.

On the motherboard: video outputs do not matter as you will be using a discrete graphics card for your output, so no worries there, but the MSI does have more USB ports. Although Raison is correct, the MSI does not come with WiFi included so you'll have to add a card, or just hard wire it.

Graphics cards: I agree on the choice of MSI. I also agree with the base model. The GTX 970 is a great graphics card and you'll be able to play most of the modern games with that on high settings at 1080p if not ultra.

CPU: Raison is dead on again. However the i5 4690k is unlocked. You had stated that you weren't really sure if you were going to overclock. You do not need to overclock this CPU as far as gaming goes, so that is just for your own personal preference. If you are building a strictly gaming build I'd honestly get a cheaper i5 such as the i5 4590($184) vs. i5 4690K($220). This also means you can get a cheaper motherboard that is for locked CPUs, such as an H97 instead of a Z97.

Now that you've given a budget, I'll see what I can do for builds.
This build uses the cheaper, locked i5 4590:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($111.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($326.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1120.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-05 13:34 EDT-0400

If you were to replace the CPU and add an aftermarket cooler for overclocking it would add this and come to this total:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1231.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-05 13:38 EDT-0400


If you did not want the i5 4690K and went with the i5 4590, you actually have enough that you could either buy a nice monitor or add a second card for SLI if you already had a monitor.

Let me know what you think. The case is definitely something you can mess with. I looked for a case that had good cable management, a lot of space, some modularity for the hardrives, and room for a water cooler if you did decide to go with the unlocked and wanted to water cool.
 

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Wanted to see the SLI build and sure enough it comes in just under $1500. This build would run a pair of UHD monitors at high settings:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($183.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($105.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin Reactor 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($111.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($326.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($326.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1447.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-05 13:47 EDT-0400
 

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Thank you for the informative answer. :D

Can you please enlighten me about the use of that Wifi on the asus motherboard? Because i already have wifi at home. So the built-in wifi would be the router?
In the performance, there is no substantial difference between the 2 models?

Would the video card perform better if paired with a motherboard from the same brand?


 

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Thank you for answering. :D

I was looking into those parts you've suggested but unfortunately some of them is not available in the local store here and i do not think i'll be able to order online.

For the motherboard, is the Asus z97 pro wifi+ac capable of SLI?
If I would want to do SLI do i need to do it immediately?

For the parts you've mentioned.
For Memory These are the 2 things available under the same brand

For storage this one is under the same brand but i am not sure as to the RPM if its 7200 because there is none mentioned in the site.
The other brand mushkin is not even available.

For power supply again, not the exact brand but those are the only available components that are 650W

The casing is available but i think it's a bit pricey. Anything similar?
 
Thank you for the informative answer. :D

Can you please enlighten me about the use of that Wifi on the asus motherboard? Because i already have wifi at home. So the built-in wifi would be the router?
In the performance, there is no substantial difference between the 2 models?

Would the video card perform better if paired with a motherboard from the same brand?

No. The Wi-Fi feature on motherboards acts as an adapter (not a router). With this feature, it is not necessary to add an additional PCIe/PCI Wi-Fi Adapter Card or a USB Wi-Fi Dongle because your motherboard already has one.

The purpose of the router is to distribute the wired or wireless connectivity among devices (computers, laptops, smartphones, etc.) and also shares the internet connection (if the router is connected to the modem) with them. When you say, "you already have wifi at home", I'm assuming you already have the ROUTER and the MODEM.

If you want your planned PC build to connect to the internet (or share with the rest of your devices), you can either: 1. Plug in a LAN cord connecting your motherboard to the ROUTER you have at home (this is the wired version and all motherboards have this) - or - 2. Plug in a wifi adapter card or wifi usb dongle so that your PC can connect to your ROUTER wirelessly. So as I've mentioned before, the motherboard with wifi feature eliminates the cost of this card or usb dongle.

You can pair any brand of motherboard with any brand of whatever components (adapters, gpu's, cpu's, etc.) and there will be no substantial difference to performance as far as I am know. Performance is based on the individual components themselves.
 

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Alright, so I used the website you gave as a search for some parts.

Firstly, yes the Asus Z97 pro Wifi does have SLi capability. And no SLi is not something you need to do right now. You don't actually have to SLi ever. You only would need dual cards if you were trying to play games on ultra settings at very large resolutions and the card you have picked out is a very good card for 1080 and even a little higher.
However, after roaming around on the site you gave me, I think I have a couple of better options for a motherboard. A wi-fi adaptor is very cheap (~$10-$20USD), so I feel there's no reason to have to get wi-fi on the board.
These two motherboards are very similar and are a better price:
Asus Z97-A
MSI Z97 Gaming 5
($185)

For the RAM, I would go with the dual channel: G.Skill 4GBX2
($57)
The hard drive you found is the exact one I priced out originally, so yes it runs at 7200.
($130)
I will look up an SSD for you as well on that site. This one should do nicely: Samsung 250GB EVO
($140)
As far as power supply goes, I found one that is of good quality, it's just a little under 650W, but it's a good unit so I would recommend it: Seasonic S12II
($77)
I knew you were asking about video card, so I would go with this one: Asus Strix GTX 970
($407)
As for case I will look into that later, but that's a pretty good build right there. I don't see the i5 4690K on that site, but I would say that or the i5 4690, or i5 4590 are your best choices for processor.
 

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So there is a bit of a problem with the prices. Since I'm from PH the prices of the components are a bit higher when purchased from the local store here. I forgot to take into account the value of prices imported from abroad. So i guess the price range i mentioned should have been 800-1000$. I'm sorry.

The parts that you've mentioned and said around the range of $1120.66, when i searched for those parts here it amounted to $1450.00 more or less.

In line with that i'm in a dilemma because i need to change most of the components to match the budget.

For the video card I would really like to get the geforce gtx 970 and there is a brand a little bit cheaper than MSI and Asus
Zotac geforce gtx970
Another choice would be to pick geforce gtx 960 of msi which is a lot cheaper than the 970.
MSI Geforce 960
What's the pros and cons on this?

For the mother board i guess I'd have to pick between Asus z97-a and MSI z97 gaming 5.
I'd really like to have i5 4690k processor. For the other parts, can you recommend others that are cheaper?
 

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Alrighty then. Sorry for all the confusion, it's definitely a little tough to switch between currencies and I know that a lot of parts tend to get inflated when transferred across borders. So from here on out we'll shoot for $800-$1000 using PC Express online pricing.

Ok, so we're still going to go with the Asus Strix GTX 970($410). This is the most important part of your gaming build because this is what drives the frame rates you'll see in game, but modern games are also using the processor more and more.

So next, the CPU. I know you want the i5 4690K, but seeing as how we've dropped the budget, you might look into something like the i3 4150. It's a dual core with 4 threads, so it acts like a 4 core CPU and it has a good clock frequency. This will be good enough to run the latest games, but if you must have a 4 core i5, I would recommend the i5 4570, or, at most, the i5 4590. We'll use the i5 4570 price for right now ($190).

It would appear that the next thing we would look at would be the motherboard, but at this point we have decided upon the two most power hungry items in the build. So we need to look at power supply. This is one of the most commonly overlooked components in a lot of computer build, especially gaming and work stations. If you don't get a quality unit it can fry your machine and damage all those expensive components, so we don't want to skimp here. This forum has a great list of power supply units (PSU) tiered by quality, but I've already scoured most of it, so I know a lot of the good units off the top of my head. After looking through PCEx, I've found 2 units that are of sufficient quality that I would feel comfortable with them in my build. The first unit is the one I suggested earlier: the Seasonic S12II 620W. The second is: Antec VP550P 550W. Now the Seasonic is going to be tier 2, while the Antec is going to be tier 3. The difference is the quality of capacitors used. Now obviously it would be nice to use the best PSU you can, but we're also on a budget, so tier 3 here wouldn't be a bad idea, but if you ever decide to put in a second card, the Antec unit is not going to be enough. So if you want to spend a little more now for a higher quality and more capacity unit, the Seasonic is a very good unit. If you don't think you'll be expanding too much past your current build, I wouldn't worry too much and the Antec will be a great budget choice. I'll use the pricing for the Seasonic for now ($77). The only other thing to compare them would be that the Seasonic is modular (meaning the cables that come with the unit can be unplugged and stored away if not needed) and the Antec is not (all the cables come attached and you get no choice in the matter).

So at this point we've chosen all the most important components and we're at $680. We're in a really good place here because we have a lot of choice left.

For the motherboard we'll be looking for a few features, but we'll be looking to keep it near $100. I would go with either the MSI Z97 PC Mate, the MSI H97M-G43, or the Asus H97 ProGamer. I think my top choice there is the MSI PC Mate, but it's up to you. We'll go with the PC Mate's pricing, for now ($112).

There's not a lot of choice on the PCEx website for RAM, so we'll have to go with the GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB ($57).

For a hard drive, terrabytes are the standard size now so we'll go with the WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM ($52).

After looking through most of the cases, this one really jumps out at me. Let me know if you like the look, but for a card as long as the 970 is, this looks like the first option I've seen that will work, that is also a good looking case and has good/modern features. Unfortunately the cable management isn't the greatest, but you should be able to sneak most of them behind the HDD cages. This is where the Seasonic PSU would really shine because you only have to use the cables you need and everything else can be taken out. The Thermaltake Versa G2 ($43).

This puts us to a total of $941. Now I have just been using the PCEx website and Google currency conversion to get US prices, so let me know if this actually fits in the budget when you look on your end. To recap (no links):
$410 - Asus Strix GTX 970
$112 - MSI Z97 PC Mate
$190 - i5 4570 3.2Ghz
$77 - Seasonic S12II 620W
$57 - GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB
$52 - WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM
$43 - Thermaltake Versa G2
$941 - Total

Give it a look and let me know what you like and what you don't like.
 
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Wow! Thank you for answering. :D This setup would be my 1st option.

I got some questions. I thought I needed the "K" in the processor to overclock?

It was pointed out to me that most of the games i play does not really need a video card like the gtx 970, with that in mind, would you suggest upgrading the other parts like motherboard and processor and picking a lesser video card? But i'm torn with that option since it would entail changing the video card when games requiring higher comes around. I do not know if it would save me money or not.

Games i play today would be dota 2 and dragon nest. But i would like to be able to play heroes of the storm and assassin's creed without problem in fps.
 

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So what i am trying to say here is that should i sacrifice and buy a lower GPU since games i play does not really need the higher ones, and then use the budget for that to buy better processor, mother board?

If such is the case, i am thinking of buying either Geforce gtx 750 ti either the asus or the evga or even a geforce gtx 660.

So in case of geforce gtx 750ti, i can upgrade to i5-4690k and the mother board to msi gaming 7
in case of the geforce gtx 660, maybe the mother board can be upgraded to msi gaming 5.
But I know there would be a need to change the video card soon enough, so keeping that in mind, which is better?
 

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Yes you are correct. If you want to overclock your processor you need the "K" suffix. You need to ask yourself though, what is this build for? If this build is primarily an enthusiast setup so that you can overclock and tinker, then yes upgrade the CPU and downgrade the GPU.
However if this build is primarily for gaming, you do not NEED the unlocked CPU. I had the same issue. I wanted an unlocked CPU, but it wasn't the best CPU for my purposes, so I chose a different CPU so I could get a PC that performed better for my primary goal.

So with that in mind, do you NEED the "K" CPU? I don't know. Only you can answer that. To make this gaming build you do not need an unlocked CPU.

Also you are correct, you don't need the GTX 970 for games such as DOTA2, Dragon Nest, and Heroes of the Storm. However for Assassin's Creed, especially Unity, to get good FPS, you might want the 970 depending on what resolution you are playing on. 1080, 1200, 1440, 2180, all have different requirements. If you have a 1920x1080 display, the 970 might be overkill for all but the latest and greatest games. Anything bigger than that and your graphic requirements go up quickly.

On this note, do you have a monitor currently or is that something you need to buy too?

So I need to know what you are planning to do with this computer because initially you stated that you wanted a gaming build. If you still want that, I stand behind my recommendation of the 970 being the staple of this build as it will get you the best performance at this price point. However if having an unlocked CPU is a must have for you, then drop the 970 to a 960 and just upgrade the CPU to the 4690K. I wouldn't change the motherboard (from here on out referred to as "mobo"). I see no reason to upgrade as you aren't getting 2 PCIex16 slots. The next step up still only gives you one x16 and two x8 in SLi, so I just don't see the purpose in getting the more expensive mobo. Honestly if you lowered to the 960 and went with the 4690K, you'll probably save money from the original build I supplied. At that point I would recommend adding a modest SSD.
 

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I'm trying to keep it at 30,000-35,000 range but maybe i can go as far as 40,000.
 

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Yes yes. Thank you for answering. :D It's just that I find it hard to decide considering games that would come out later on. I am torn with picking a great video card now as oppose to a processor and mobo then upgrade the video card later on. I already have my monitor, keyboard, mouse.
 


Here's my recommended build for you (I canvassed some websites in your location and found this to have the most competitive prices):

CPU: (I chose an unlocked CPU, which you prefer, great for gaming)
Intel Core i5-4690K
Php 10,550.00 @ EasyPC

CPU COOLER: (This is a must as you will be overclocking your unlocked CPU. Disregard your stock cooler)
Cooler Master Vortex Plus
Php 1,230.00 @ DynaQuest PC

MOBO: (Your preferred motherboard, great for overclocking with more features, like SLI, than its lower version)
Msi Z97-Gaming 5
Php 8,060.00 @ PCHub

RAM: (I chose a 8GB as a minimum for most games. Most likely, you won't be needing more than 8GB.)
G.Skill RipJaws X (Dual) 2x4gb DDR3-2133 CL9 (F3 2133C9D 8GXL)
Php 2,840 @ ayoscomputer

GPU: (Capable in playing high-quality games on 1080p resolution. Upgrade to a GTX 980 later on.)
Zotac GeForce GTX 960 2GB 128-Bit DDR5 (ZT-90310-10M)
Php 8,500.00 @ DynaQuest PC

PSU: (Chose a Tier-2 high-quality power supply. Good enough for a future GTX 980 upgrade.)
Seasonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze
Php 2,750.00 @ pcnetmiles

CASE: (Chose an affordable Black/Red Theme to complement interior components. Change to your liking.)
Raidmax Vortex V4 Windowed Mid-Tower (Black/Red)
Php 1,840.00 @ DynaQuest PC

HDD: (A good price-performance hard drive with low failure rates)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7,200rpm 64MB (WD10EZEX)
Php 2,499.00 @ DynaQuest PC

TOTAL COST OF BUILD: Php 38,269.00

Note that the OS was excluded as I do not know if you already have one. If you don't, then, add maybe about Php 4,000.00 for a new one.

Now, if you still can squeeze a couple more bucks, maybe about Php 3,000.00 to Php 4,000.00, I highly recommend you include in your build a Solid State Drive (even just a 120GB) to be used as your system drive (Drive C:\) as this will increase boot time, loading times, and even gaming/application performance.

One more thing, try to haggle for additional discounts with these stores (especially for stores that you'll get a lot of items from). This can help you squeeze the much recommended SSD or a new OS or even the GTX 970/980 into this build.
 

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Thank you for all the help!

So i settled with getting the gtx 970 for gaming though not the asus model but the MSI one.

The one i bought was the one with the tiger in the box, i think oc edition or something. Is it a wrong choice?
Is the dragon better? Like by a lot?

I'm not really bothered by the sound of the unit though i'm bothered if there is substantial difference in the performance considering both are gtx 970 cards.
 

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How can I compensate that difference? How much in performance does that translate to? Like 1-5 fps?

If i would want to add CPU cooler, any suggestions please? Thanks again. :D
 
Just some questions about your possible purchase (and I hope you haven't purchased them yet):

Why would you get a locked CPU multiplier (i5-4570) and pair it with a Z97 motherboard (suitable for overclocking)? I don't get the logic as you are paying more for something you can't do or not need.

Why would you also get a 620W PSU for a single-GTX 970 when you can save more money in getting a 500W or 520W PSU? The recommended PSU for a GTX 970 is only 500W (this includes headroom already). If you are planning to go SLI, then 2x GTX 970 cards would require 700W. I don't think there's a point in getting a 620W if you're using either a single-card or plan to go 2xSLI in the future.
 

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Just some questions about your possible purchase (and I hope you haven't purchased them yet):

Why would you get a locked CPU multiplier (i5-4570) and pair it with a Z97 motherboard (suitable for overclocking)? I don't get the logic as you are paying more for something you can't do or not need.

Why would you also get a 620W PSU for a single-GTX 970 when you can save more money in getting a 500W or 520W PSU? The recommended PSU for a GTX 970 is only 500W (this includes headroom already). If you are planning to go SLI, then 2x GTX 970 cards would require 700W. I don't think there's a point in getting a 620W if you're using either a single-card or plan to go 2xSLI in the future.

Awww I already bought the CPU

I was able to increase the budget because my brother helped in the payment. :D

i5-4690k processor
asus z97-a motherboard
msi geforce gtx 970 tiger oc edition (not the dragon. Huhu, )
the psu was something in the 650W and i can't remember the brand. the 620w was not available then.

Awww. So there's no need for 650W?