i7 4790k in a laptop over heating when playing guild wars 2 and other mmo ideas on how to keep heat down

Wisconsingamer · Sep 4, 2015

I just got a new beast of a laptop and it doesn't seam to perform the greatest at stock settings. I can play madmax and also metalgearsolid phantom pain maxed out with temps in the mid 70s.

However at times when playing guild wars2 I have seen temps jump to 86 and hover around low 80s at times in games. It averages closer to 75 but the jumps up to 86 and it getting to the low 80s worries me.

Is this something I should be concerned about or is it not that big of a deal because it's not a sustained temperature. I'd say it averages about 78 with jumps up to low 80s on occasion and random spikes went up to 86 at the highest.

I've seen people say turn down the setting in windows and it will lower clock speeds slightly and temps. For some reason the Intel utility over locker wasn't included so I can't easily underclock it either.

Is this normal with this cpu to spike up like that or is this going to be a bigger problem it's only during mmos that I see these spikes and higher temps.

I used hwinfo to get this info as well as msi afterburner. I'm considering trying real temp as I've read that it's very accurate.

Kinda at a loss hear appreciate any info.

Karsten75 · Sep 4, 2015

Those processors weren't made to be installed in laptops. They can't be cooled adequately. It is highly unlikely that you will ever be able to maximize the processor.

Wisconsingamer · Sep 4, 2015

Karsten75 :

I'm not trying to maximize the processor just play games. Max setting do little to nothing to the gpu to be honest it runs under 70 always. The problem is certain games make the cou run hot. I've seen others underclock a little and slightly lower voltage and gain a few degrees just from doing that. Is spikes of 86c and constant temp in high 70s to low 80s very bad for this setup

lizardpeter · Sep 4, 2015

Thermal Throttling should keep the processor from overheating, as those processors tend to run very hot on laptops. One solution may be to get a cooler/stand for the laptop which keeps it propped up and helps circulate the air.

Solandri · Sep 5, 2015

Most games are GPU-limited, so you end up with the GPU running at 100%, while the CPU is around 20%-40%.

GW2 is a little odd in that it uses the CPU heavily. On a lot of computers it's actually CPU-limited instead of GPU-limited. In GW2 the GPU is running close to 100%, while the CPU is running hotter than in other games. The combined heat of the CPU + GPU is why you're getting higher temps in GW2. MMOs generally have higher CPU usage because they have to track dozens and sometimes hundreds of other players.

In GW2's graphics options, turn down the character model limit. I run mine at medium. That limits the number of other players which need to be drawn (helping framerate) and their actions tracked (which reduces CPU load). That'll help lower your CPU temps.

In your BIOS, you can try turning off hyperthreading. 4 threads is usually enough for most games (even MMOs), and the extra threads running simultaneously with hyperthreading can raise temps higher than if the thread just waited until more CPU is available. I actually didn't like this because for some reason it made 60 fps Youtube videos stutter (even though those videos run fine on a dual core). I wasn't able to figure out why, so I just turned hyperthreading back on.

You can also try turning off turbo boost. Heat generation goes as something like the square or cube of frequency. So from a temperature standpoint, if you're not hitting 100% CPU usage, you're better off waiting to complete the CPU tasks, than for the CPU to turbo boost to complete those tasks as quickly as possible.

Control panel -> Power options -> [your current plan] -> change plan settings -> Change advanced power settings
Scroll down to Processor power management -> Maximum processor state -> set to 99% to disable turbo boost

You can set it even lower if you want to limit the max clock speed of the CPU for whatever reason.

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