Windows 95 not recognizing keyboard and mouse

sfreire

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Hello,
So I just recovered an old computer that I had approximately 12 years ago. So I set up everything, and when I turn on the computer, it boots up correctly, but nor the keyboard or the mouse worked. They don't work in BIOS nor Windows. Also, the mouse doesn't work. The keyboard is an old 5-pin din keyboard, and the mouse has a DB-9 connector, like this: http://ofp-faguss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/mouse_db9.jpg .
The computer is very old, so it doesn't have any USB ports or PS/2 connections, so I can't test with other keyboards. And I can't get borrowed a mouse or a keyboard with that connectors, because I don't know anybody who has such and old keyboard or mouse. It also has a 6 dip switch, that are all in on. Maybe is that the problem?
I don't know the specifications because I don't know the model, and I can't get into BIOS to check the specifications there. It's Windows 95, just imagine the amount of RAM and Hard Disk that computers had in the 90's ;)
Sorry for my english!
Hope you can help me.
Thanks
 
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W4WGs / NT4 / Win 2k / XP / Win7 ... the rest were betas for those :)

I am ecstatic that MS backed down on the force feeding windows updates on Windows 10. Still have concerns about the privacy invasions and using our boxes as a torrent server. I spent today in the office hiding / uninstalling the Updates that put the Win10 tracking / data collection in place on Windows 7 boxes.

If you have similar concerns, these are the KBs involved

KB3068708: Described as "This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded.
The update also supports applications that are subscribed to...

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have you tried other keyboards? have you tried to plug the keyboard and mouse in different ports? are you sure that your keyboard and mouse work?also im pretty sure windows 95 probably came with mouse and keyboard drivers but do you think that could be the issue?
 
Trying alternate mice / KB is a tough option as USB arrived in the mid / late 90s and just about everything since has USB plugs. Few folks will have spare 15 - 18 year old keyboards around. I have some old stuff in my junk box that's going on 20 years old bit even those have more modern plugs.

Perhaps an adapter will work for you
 

sfreire

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Hello and thanks for the fast responses.
Well, the computer only has one port of each kind. The last time I used it (about 4 or 5 years old ago), it worked just fine, so it can't be a driver issue. Also, I can't check if they are working, because I don't have any other computer with that ports. Talking about the adapter, I don't know if I can get a USB to 5 din plug.
Any other solution?

Thanks
 


Looks like a standard Serial port mouse...
1. You may be able to connect a PS/2 mouse and keyboard, with a Serial Port to a dual PS/2 adapter, and a PS2 splitter (1 ps2 to 2 ps2) for both keyboard and mouse.

2. Another option is a PCI to PS/2 card if the motherboard has PCI expansion slots.

3. One more option may be a 5-pin din to ps2 converter...
USB may be out of the question as the motherboard BIOS may not have the capability to recognize USB.

a) Serial Port Mouse
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Serial-Port-Mouse-New-/252057380682

b) Serial Port to PS/2 adapter/converter
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=serial+port+to+ps2+keyboard+adapter&biw=1131&bih=771&tbm=isch&imgil=uO1J5HwAqmcmbM%253A%253Bg_BCY6EKribPvM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fbhp%25252Fserial-port-mouse&source=iu&pf=m&fir=uO1J5HwAqmcmbM%253A%252Cg_BCY6EKribPvM%252C_&usg=__5SmqVCfh9rpgJ7-zz4_GJgnITCA%3D&ved=0CEAQyjdqFQoTCLG4otnx4McCFVIsiAod2eABoA&ei=WGXrVbGsGtLYoATZwYeACg#imgrc=uO1J5HwAqmcmbM%3A&usg=__5SmqVCfh9rpgJ7-zz4_GJgnITCA%3D

c) ps2 splitter (2 ps2 to 1 ps2 port)
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-Keyboard-Splitter-Adapter-KYC1MF/dp/B000067SLZ

d) 5-pin din to ps2 converter
https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=5-pin+din+to+ps2+converter&biw=1131&bih=771&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCwQsARqFQoTCN7F59L04McCFVM0iAodJf0B1g


 


I still have some old Wang 8088 processors that ran on DOS 3.1 w/ 5.25 floppies. Used one of hem until about 5 years ago. We did the structural design for a nationwide greenhouse / solar room manufacturer on them. We had several laptops that came with both Win95 / W4WGs, one still working, and also had a few desktops we tried both. Because Windows 95 was 40% slower than W4WGs we never deployed it at the office or home and went right from W4WGs to NT4.

I have library a database on the W4WGs box that I open up anytime I feel like re-reading or someone wants to borrow a book.

 
The release of Win95 forever clouded my perception of media hype. Each year, I would anxiously await PC magazine's PC Roundup issue which typically tested 100 or so PCs. These things literally made and broke vendors in the day. I was shocked to see two things:

1. One-third of the systems submitted had W4WGs, two-thirds had Win95 ... with all MS spend marketing the "latest and greatest" and all the trade mag articles about the blazing performance we could expect, I couldn't figure why in the world any vendor would submit the slow cumbersome "old thing".

2. When I read it, there was a part about that say Comtrade had submitted 5 builds for example and then when I got to the tables, there was only 2 machines ... ?? ... as I was reading the article, turned the page and it was gone ... where was the rest of the article ? Turned a few more pages, went abck to last page and viewed the small print at bottom right of page and it said that the article continued 100 paged later !

Now why would they do that ? Was a real PITA looking at the table on page 196 and then flipping back to 96 to make line by line comparisons. But after dong so, the benchmark scores were wildly different. The article would spend like a page and a half on the 4.5% advantage that SCI drives had over IDE and that the ones with Mushkin / Micron memory were x % faster .... but a 40% difference between benchmarks on identical machines and not a word ?????

It's simple fact of publishing made even more important today than it was then. Your standing in the train station looking for something to read on the daily commute home. You see a magazine with the headline:'

"Win95 has absolutely nothing to offer... 40% slower" and you think, well I won't learn anything reading that, the headline told me all I need to know". Not only does that magazine not fly off the shelves, but after months of press releases repackaged as news articles, spouting how all the new and wonderful stuff will make our lives better, they kinda put a big hit on their own journalistic integrity.

InfoWorld was the only one who covered this and follow up articles reported that corporate america had invested from $2500 to $4500 per box in hardware upgrades, training, downtime ... only to find that their systems were slower than they were before. Lotta IT chiefs were out on their you know what after that. And us geeky types wonder why business is slow to move to the latest and greatest ... cause those in charge better show a positive ROI on their investment or they are shown the door.
 
Very interesting read, JackNaylorPE. Didn't know the history at the time, only 12yo at Win95 release. Your right about the marketing/ads. They have to put a positive spin on it(Vista anyone?). It was a terribly slow OS to install and run on a machine originally equipped w/ XP. No wonder everyone "held on" to XP.
 
W4WGs / NT4 / Win 2k / XP / Win7 ... the rest were betas for those :)

I am ecstatic that MS backed down on the force feeding windows updates on Windows 10. Still have concerns about the privacy invasions and using our boxes as a torrent server. I spent today in the office hiding / uninstalling the Updates that put the Win10 tracking / data collection in place on Windows 7 boxes.

If you have similar concerns, these are the KBs involved

KB3068708: Described as "This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded.
The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights."

KB3075249: Described as "This article describes an update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1
Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1."
Consent.exe is the User Account Control (UAC) feature that asks your approval for disk access.

KB3080149: Described as "This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
This service provides benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update
also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights."

And one which I didn't as yet find on any systems:

KB3022345: This was a bad one and screwed up lotta machines if you installed it before it was opulled

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-update/kb3022345-causes-error-in-sfcexe/50f1d04c-6a16-49f6-a017-7c19130eb7e0?auth=1


There's also:

KB3035583; Described as "This update installs the Get Windows 10 app, which helps users understand their Windows 10 upgrade options and device readiness. For more information about Windows 10, see Windows 10. This update applies to Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) and Internet Explorer 11 (IE11). Before you install this update, check out the Prerequisites section."

You can uninstall them via Windows control panel ("View Installed Updates").... of course make sure you have WU in "advise but let me install" mode and immediately run Windows Update and hide those 4 KBs so they don't get reinstalled.
 
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