Minimum needed to keep a PSU running (without a motherboard/load)

thatdude624

Reputable
Sep 12, 2015
4
0
4,510
Hello all!
I know this is a forum mainly for working with PCs, but it still seems to be the most appropriate place to ask.

I plan to power various electronics projects with a PC power supply, which conveniently has the 5V and 12V rails I need and with more current than you find in your standard phone charger style power supplies. I used the method of connecting the green PS-ON wire to ground to turn it on, but after a while the power supply suddenly stopped working. Turns out they need a minimum current to be drawn from some lines to stay functional, and not drawing enough power can break them. Oops!

So, I went back and bought a new super cheap PSU (I only need 10A per voltage at most). Unfortunately, I can't find any details on the minimum current it needs. It's a Linkworld brand, model "LPK2-35EP5 / 450W". Since googling that doesn't come up with much, here's the sticker:
mhYtuYn.jpg

The label seems to say it has 2 12V lines, but considering the price I doubt it, and my multimeter tells me all 12V wires are connected to each other. I can't say how accurate the rest of that label is either. (EDIT: after some thought, this might be referring to fuses on different rails, but having them connected to the same source. Maybe, I don't know much about PC power supplies. All 12V wires are the same colour yellow.)

So, the question: what kind of load would I need to put on each power line to keep it alive? I'll sometimes only be using the 5V line, sometimes only the 12V line(s?) with varying loads, and sometimes both. What kind of load resistors would that need per voltage?

Alternatively, how do I fix a power supply that failed from too little power draw? Nothing obvious is broken (fuse and caps are fine). Probably not fixable, but it would be nice to not have to throw it away.
 

thatdude624

Reputable
Sep 12, 2015
4
0
4,510

I would try, but the previous power supply that broke seemed to lack any sort of no-load shut off, and just broke after running for 10 minutes while powering something that drew fairly little power. I haven't heard many positive things about Linkworld PSUs, so it wouldn't be too surprising if it lacked this feature too.

Don't those case fans only use 12V though? Is that the only line that needs a load to keep it alive? I was under the impression all the lines needed power to be drawn.

In case it helps, the model of the PSU that's broken already is a "DPS-250AB-22 A", from "DELTA ELECTRONICS INC.", again with little to be found in google searches.
 
Just so you know, we have all Linkworld power supplies listed on our Power Supply List as Tier 5. Fireball category. They are very cheaply made, and have few or no protection circuits. So anything you hook up to that power supply is at risk when the power supply is turned on. There is no lower category of power supply on that list. That thing is something you really do not want to turn on.

Tier Five
Avoid IMMEDIATELY. These units are highly unsafe to use. No such protections added, very thin gauge wiring used, false advertising and too much to list. Reference to a higher tiered unit for a better, money saving and a much safer unit. For your safety's sake, please don't order or pick one up for use in your system. These units are a potential fire hazard and could even kill you, let alone your system.
 
Just so you know, we have all Linkworld power supplies listed on our Power Supply List as Tier 5. Fireball category. They are very cheaply made, and have few or no protection circuits. So anything you hook up to that power supply is at risk when the power supply is turned on. There is no lower category of power supply on that list. That thing is something you really do not want to turn on.

Tier Five
Avoid IMMEDIATELY. These units are highly unsafe to use. No such protections added, very thin gauge wiring used, false advertising and too much to list. Reference to a higher tiered unit for a better, money saving and a much safer unit. For your safety's sake, please don't order or pick one up for use in your system. These units are a potential fire hazard and could even kill you, let alone your system.
 

thatdude624

Reputable
Sep 12, 2015
4
0
4,510

I realise now that getting this PSU was probably not the best idea (perhaps since I saw the generic box which literally only says "power supply" on it), but I'm kind of stuck with it now :(
I don't really have a high budget for this project, and I just need a couple amps or so on 5V and 12V to power motors, with a Raspberry Pi on the 5V standby line controlling it and turning on the PSU when needed. Regulation isn't too much of a problem with motors, hopefully the 5V standby line is stable (even then, a $35 Pi isn't too expensive to replace in the worst case) Even then, a fire hazard isn't too fun to have no matter what power output.

Until I find a proper and cheap power source to replace it, I'm still stuck using this hunk of junk for now.
 

thatdude624

Reputable
Sep 12, 2015
4
0
4,510

From that page:
In most cases, a minimum load of 0–0.3 amps at +3.3 V, 2.0–4.0 amps at +5 V, and 0.5–1.0 amps at +12 V is considered acceptable.
So, at least 2.5 ohm on 5V (10W) and at least 24 ohms on 12V (6W) should be enough to stop it from failing (at least from under current)? Sounds doable, though I don't have high current resistors lying around, they're fairly cheap.