FX-8350 vs. 5820K for Gaming/Workstation(Adobe,C4D,Maya). Which is better?

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HI everyone,

I've been looking around for differences between the two, and have considered a few things so far. Issue is, I can't really find a good comparison of the two, so, it's be nice to get an input on the two.

Right now, I already have a 8350 build, should I just stay with it instead of wasting the $600+ making a move to the Haswell-e?

Here's my current build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/0nard00/saved/#view=Th6mP6

The 750W is for a move to a GTX 980 or and 980Ti.

Thanks again.
 
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You don't need a Quadro for those apps. You'd have to spend 4x the price of your 960 to get similar performance with a Quadro card. The 8350 will limit the 980 Ti a bit. If you want to upgrade to Intel, get a H97 motherboard + Xeon 1231 processor. Also, if you will be constantly working on new projects, and constantly rendering and multitasking. Then you should buy the 5820k, but if your PC is idling most of the time, or just playing games, you won't benefit from an upgrade, at all.

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So, better buy a 980Ti or a FuryX instead?
 
The 5820k will be hugely better and hugely more expensive, unless you can sell off some of your existing parts (so it will merely be a lot more expensive :) )

Only you can determine whether or not it is worth the cost. For the difference in cost, you could build a second system, just for rendering on the side.

Your CPU will likely limit a GTX 980ti. and many games.

 

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I've been watching videos on the 980ti+ 8350, this one seems to show the latter though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8XK1y_jVhc

I plan on overclocking my CPU. I know I can sell the parts easily. Thing is, it won't be much of a return. Probably 50% of that budget. I can get $300+ easy, but that will take a long while.

It's doable though.

I've seen what the 5820K can do, but I really wanna see a clear difference.
 

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Well i got a feeling that im about to help you out quite a lot on this one, so ill be as detailed as i can be..

I use to own the fx 8350 (paired with my current gtx 970 and an asus crosshair V motherboard)

I decided to switch to my current processor (the exact same one you are questioning here)
I have my 5820k now paired with a msi gaming x99 gaming 9 ack motherboard now overclocked at 4.5ghz

I mad the move out of complete curiosity myself as i had never had an intel processor before the day i switched over.

Long story short below
If you decide to make the switch over to the 5820k, expect around double the performance in nearly every single game you own.

Examples below:
Arma 2/3/dayz standalone
Amd framerate for me=30-50fps
Intel=75-100fps (huge towns drop to 50 all the time because of poor optimization in arma)

Battlefield 4
Amd=60-90fps with a mix of ultra settings and low
Intel=110=120fps all ultra with only AA turned off (locked at 120)

GTA V
Amd=50-75fps with mixture of settings between high/low/ultra (grass quality down low)
Intel=75-120fps with the same thing here, all ultra with no AA (i use sweetfx framework and reshade framework in most all games now)

Many other random games i play all the time hover around the same on both setups (yes both had the exact same gpu with the exact same clock speeds, in signature)

I.E. nosgoth/warface/dirty bomb/heroes and generals/killing floor 2/insurgency/etc etc etc (the list continues on with what i have tested)

Most all of these are not to extremely intensive but most of them hover around 50-70 with the amd build and with intel they stay up to 120 with very rare drops to 100

Now onto processor usage.

With amd=i usually hover all over the place with usage on the amd processor (80% to 100% depending on the game, mostly hangs in at 75% with battlefield)

With intel=This one is hilarious but ill explain. While gaming, i have yet to see this processor hit 50% usage under ANY circumstance in ANY game at all (also maintains the performance explained above). While stress testing with aida64 at 1.3 volts at 100% (i hover in right at 70c, pretty sure i got semi lucky with my chip)

Moral of the story here is if you are a streamer/gaming, it is a HUGE no brainer to switch out if you are already thinking about it.

P.S. I used xsplit when i was testing streaming with intel and my motherboard also has hardware encoding (the streaming engine feature) so therefore i lost zero performance while streaming on this chip (if i leave the streaming running while i game, i forget its running all the time)

 

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Gaming really isn't my main concern on this one. It's mostly making sure it can handle and be fast with my workload. But, I like what you stated. I still need to get into the price, and if it's worth it to do it right now, or look around the holiday season.
 

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Unfortunately, no. They shutdown the one near us. Closest is down in Irvine, CA I think.
 

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Too bad, they don't seem to be doing shipping. I don't even see them in PCPartPicker anymore. My Fry's store doesn't price match with them.
 

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That is what im saying, this isnt only good for gaming. This cpu burns through everything so easily its insane.

Upper end quad core intel processors beat the 8350 by miles.

What do you think a 6 core/12 threaded cpu will do against the fx 8350?

There is no comparison here, its IMPOSSIBLE for the 5820k to loss this one.
 

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So the $800+ move is worth it? here's the system I'm looking at.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/0nard00/saved/#view=q3WfrH
 

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Unless you are on a very tight budget, the 8350 should not even be considered.

And judging by the 5820k thoughts, the 8350 should not be considered.

Comparing the two in streaming is laughable, the 5820k absolutely destroys it without even breathing
 

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What would be your setup if you decided on amd?
You might want more than a gtx 960 (budget limit?)
 

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This is what I already have. I'm also thinking of just going up to a 980Ti + a 1440p monitor. So, I have those two routes I'm thinking about. Budget wise, I can't do both.

Or, a Quadro card + 1440p monitor. Since my 960 is more than capable of any game out right now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/0nard00/saved/#view=Th6mP6
 
You don't need a Quadro for those apps. You'd have to spend 4x the price of your 960 to get similar performance with a Quadro card. The 8350 will limit the 980 Ti a bit. If you want to upgrade to Intel, get a H97 motherboard + Xeon 1231 processor. Also, if you will be constantly working on new projects, and constantly rendering and multitasking. Then you should buy the 5820k, but if your PC is idling most of the time, or just playing games, you won't benefit from an upgrade, at all.
 
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Running the 980ti on the 8350 is not a very good idea (i had my 8350 on my gtx 970 and was choking the performance of the 970)

If you are rendering/streaming/editing alot then yes i highly recommend keeping that 960 and grabbing a 5820k

Your render times and editing times will literally cut in half or better.
 
the 8350 already limits 780/290 cards. anything higher is just out of the question. this may not mean much if you already are getting 60fps, but the bottleneck is definitely there, sometimes as much as 50% lower fps in something like battlefield 4 multiplayer.
 

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I won't really know how heavy the workload is until this Weds, I can wait around till I get a clearer idea.

That's a big consideration. That's why I wanna be really sure before I jump into it. The 980Ti I know will help a lot with C4D, and AE. So, I need to look at all options thoroughly.
 

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