Build 1(AMD) vs Build 2(INTEL) - I need help deciding on what is best

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

I am currently in the process of buying/building a new computer. I would like some professional opinions on which would be better for what I am using the computer for. I typically use the pc for gaming/videos (entertainment PC). I will be running 2 monitors while streaming on twitch or recording videos for youtube. Here are the 2 comps i have put together. It will be an AMD machine vs an Intel machine. For both machines I will have an 850w power supply for sli/crossfire in the future and Windows 10. Standard 1tb 7200RPM HD.

AMD machine

CPU:
AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W FD8350FRHKBOX Desktop Processor

MOBO:
ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula-Z AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 8 x SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard with 3-Way SLI/CrossFireX

GPU:
SAPPHIRE Radeon R9 390X 100381OCL 8GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 2.2 Slot, ATX Tri-X OC Version (UEFI) Video Card

RAM:
G.SKILL TridentX Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Intel Machine

CPU:
Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600

MOBO:
GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK (rev. 1.0) LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

GPU:
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 04G-P4-2974-KR 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 SLI Support Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

bicycle_repair_man · Sep 16, 2015

Will you be gaming across both monitors or just one? What resolution are the monitors?

My initial recommendation is the Intel build; the 4790K demolishes the FX-8350 and the R9 390X is hugely overkill unless you're thinking 4K.

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

I use one monitor to game, one monitor for websites/youtube videos/ streaming. Both are 24inch screens...max resolution is 1920x1080 16:9. What I'm trying to do is mainly run Blizzard entertainment games (all of them) at 60fps max settings. I'm not really sure what is the lagger on my current system, or if i just need to start SLI-ing.

And before you say anything about why not just buy another graphics card, I am building a new computer and giving my old one to a relative.

bicycle_repair_man · Sep 16, 2015

In that case, I'm still going to recommend the Intel build.

As I understand it, isometric RPGs are CPU-intensive as it's the CPU that renders the characters, and there could be a lot of them on-screen simultaneously. A GTX 970 should have no trouble at 1920x1080 and 60 frames-per-second.

CelicaGT · Sep 16, 2015

As a (former) die hard AMD fan....go with the Intel build this round. Those GPU's are interchangeable so do what you want there. Why does everyone pair the nVidia stuff with intel, and AMD with AMD?

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

I read somewhere that AMD goes well with Radeon. So....how do i build a system that gets 60fps in a game on max settings? Because my current build will not support 60fps on max settings (GPU is gtx 970). I have to do medium to low for 60fps.

dudeman509 · Sep 16, 2015

The 970 should handle 60 FPS in all modern games with high settings on a good processor. You could even use an i5, though the i7 would be better for streaming.

What is your current processor?

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

I'm not 100% sure, but it could be
Intel Core i5-4690K.

The only thing I know fore sure, is that I have an Intel i5. So far the only game I can run at true 60fps on max settings is hearthstone. World of Warcraft runs on medium, Diablo 3 runs on medium/low. Heroes of the storm/LOL high but not ultra. Starcraft 2, medium/high. And this is to get 60fps usually, typically when alot of action is going on it hits 30/40. Ah yes...and a single player game...the witcher 3. I run that on medium/low to get 40 - 60 fps.

bicycle_repair_man · Sep 16, 2015

When you say max settings, is that literally everything cranked up to the maximum; anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, etc? I'd expect a GTX 970 and 4690K to get better results than what you're seeing, but not with every setting cranked up to 11.

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

Yes that means everything cranked up to max. I built the computer, maybe I did something wrong?

dudeman509 · Sep 16, 2015

Turn anti-aliasing and stuff down and set everything else to high/ultra and you'll be fine - there is no need to set it THAT high. Do you stream in the background?

Witcher runs over 60 FPS, Starcraft easily runs on high, and I have a FX chip. A Haswell i5 is definitely capable of more.

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

This may be an idiot question (id10t error), but when you say turn anti-aliasing down, do you mean in the video settings on my desktop, or the option in the game?

Yea, starcraft runs on high for sure. I'm trying to stream on one monitor, to see the chatroom, and i run games in windowed mode on the other monitor.

However streaming aside, the frame rates i gave were when I don't stream. When I stream, there is a small dip. Not much, but still noticable.

dudeman509 · Sep 16, 2015

Game settings. FXAA, MSAA, whatever they want to call it - you really don't need to go past 2-4X, and anything more at 1080p just slows it down.

seeingeyegod · Sep 16, 2015

There is no way you should be getting slow downs on Diablo3, that ran flawlessly on my 8350 with a GTX660.

Dravirextheone · Sep 16, 2015

Then I'm doing something wrong. When I get home, I'll list the diablo 3 settings I use to maintain a 60fps (ish...it probably fluctuates from 50-60 depending on what is on the screen) If i put it on max settings it gets very choppy.

bicycle_repair_man · Sep 17, 2015

dudeman509 :

Agreed, anything more than x4 MSAA or TXAA is a waste and will adveresly affect the frame rate in a big way. Personally, I don't bother with FXAA as I don't find it very effective.

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