Nvidia Pascal 2016?

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photonboy

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The magic eight ball says "Try Again Later"!

Seriously, nobody is certain and it's a lot of rumors. It can also CHANGE a lot if any issues with fab arise, or if NVidia wants to slow down due to AMD's financial issues.

By that I mean that it doesn't always make sense to spend extra money to compete if the other guy can't finish the race.

I suspect Q2 2016 is being generous but we'll see. I'm personally holding out for a Pascal GPU to replace my GTX680 2GB.

The GTX980Ti was the first card I would consider but since I'm not in much of a rush I'm holding off (most of the games I play on max at 60FPS anyay).

*I'm also curious about whether Asynchronous Compute will really benefit DX12 like it does AMD and the other changes with Pascal. Basically I'm looking for something that's at least 1.5X the performance of a GTX980Ti with 8GB of VRAM for under $1000.
 
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Actually, it's not uncommon for the FLAGSHIP to come first or one step below. That lets them be the performance king, the money is in the top end, and finally they can rebin GPU's that don't make the cut and block off damaged sections to use them for lower-end cards.

How mature the fabrication process is does dictate things a lot as well.

I think we'll see a repeat of the GTX900 series. We got the GTX960 then 950 last. So it went:

1) HIGH (970/980)
2) ULTRA (980Ti)
3) MID (960)
4) LOW (950)

So the "ULTRA" card might require the fabrication process to mature a bit so they can produce them with cost effectively, while the LOW END cards don't make much money so there's no real rush there.
 
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By lower end cards I meant middle cards like 970 or counterpart which is probably what we'll see first...for 770 and 780 came out in may 2013 and at end of year came 780 ti...970 and 980 came out september 2014 and ti in june 15. Earlier titan was kind of thrown in the mix but it was mainly halo so it didn't matter.
 
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I'm still rocking a GTX680 and for 95% of my collection I'm running at max or near-max settings.

As said it also depends on what you already have. So...

1) What CPU do you have?
2) What GPU do you have?
3) What games do you have?

For example,
1) my GTX680 2GB is overkill for CIV5 at 1440p/60FPS.

2) I can play Crysis 3 if I tweak carefully and use Adaptive VSYNC. It's a BORDERLINE game for getting a GPU upgrade for me. It looks great so I can't justify the cost.

3) Witcher 3 and a few other titles on the other hand are games I want a new GPU for. However, I'm really in no rush as I'm still making my way through my current games due to Steam sales.

4) I'm also curious if DX12 + Pascal will do anything truly beneficial as I intend to keep my next GPU about FIVE YEARS.

*As said though, what would a Pascal GPU due for you that a GTX980Ti won't? Hard to say.

Other:
I'd definitely investigate GSYNC. Getting a GPU upgrade is nice but no matter what you get it won't game as well as it COULD if you don't have a GSYNC monitor. In fact, a monitor like the 1440p IPS Acer Predator paired with a GTX960 can give better experiences than a GTX980Ti paired with a similar monitor that isn't GSYNC.

(I said "CAN" not always)
 
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I think Q3 2016 is a safe bet, or definitely Q4 (over a year from now) may be more reasonable prediction due to AVAILABILITY.

Obviously can't be more accurate, but this is the best link I can find:
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gpu-manufactured-tsmc-16nm-ff-node-flagship-single-chip-card-feature-16-gb-hbm2-vram/

"This means that we can see a launch of these chips as early as Q2 2016"

That's slightly vague though. Best case using that is APRIL 2016. If it's not "as early as" but later then the best case becomes JULY.
 
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We have no idea, but a current 970 can run on a 400W unit with your system as is.
 
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That should be fine for one card as the performance per watt is dropping a lot with the 16nm finfet. If there's a chance you might sli the cards coming out, you may want to go ahead and go big (850 watt) with the power supply so you don't have to buy another one.

That also would depend which card you would be buying.

650 watt may be enough for two 1070 level cards but maybe not enough for two flagship/1080TI cards. Not enough details yet.
 
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Very awesome stuff here. Card sounds like it's going to completely dumpster everything when it comes out.

I've been holding off for a while now and my GTX 670 is very outdated and does not run stuff such as Witcher 3 with Ultra settings, and I have just recently became very fond of RPG games and I'm planning on getting the GTX 980 Ti very soon.

[strike]With all that being said, and I may be completely wrong here but just giving the Pascal a quick overview it sounds like it's going to be introducing a new technology that will be replacing PCIe 3.0 with NV-Link. So this leads me to believe that if you want to run one of these Pascal cards you are going to be getting a new motherboard with this new feature as well? Like I said, could be completely wrong but if I'm right then that turns a simple "GPU Upgrade" into a "okay time to buy a whole new system based on X new tech".[/strike] Disregard, read a misleading article about NV-Link.

Which is why I am going to go ahead and get a GTX 980 Ti and let this new tech mature a bit.
 
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The new cards are gonna be beastly, amd cards too.

I think the nvlink will not be available on consumer cards yet or maybe only on titanx variant and workstation cards, I think it will be more of a pcie 4.0 if anything for now. pcie 3.0 isn't going anywhere.

If you could wait another 6 months, you may be able to get 980 ti performance at the $400 price range with these cards coming out. No ones sure on where exactly performance will lie but a 1070/1080 will probably fall in line with 980 ti performance but no one knows price either.
 
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Maybe they were referring to the supercomputer versions of these cards, idk..just googled nvidia pascal 2016 and started reading. Here is the link, sorry for false alarm :X http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gpu-gtc-2015/

 
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Nvlink was created to solve the problem in HPC application. When it comes to nvlink vs pcie it is not so much about bandwidth like many like to assume. It is about latency due to how pcie work. In regular pc this is not an issue but in supercomputer when there is thousands of gpu being connected altogether the latency become the bottleneck.
 
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