NEW Samsung 950 Pro M.2 3.0x4 NVME ssd

Consumers have been patiently waiting for Samsung to introduce a consumer version of an M.2 3.0 x 4 NVMe ssd with full factory warranty. It is going to happen.

Samsung originally introduced the XP941 and then two versions of the SM951. All three models were OEM models designed explicitly for installation in computers sold by companies like Dell, HP, Lenovo, and others. They were never meant to be purchased by consumers. Since they were OEM versions there was no standard Samsung manufacturers warranty. Despite the OEM designation and lack of a warranty consumers still managed to purchase those drives thanks to a few online vendors who were willing to sell them to consumers. Two or three of the vendors also indicated they would honor what normally would have been a 3 year warranty and they shipped the ssd's world wide.

Earlier this year during an interview a Samsung corporate vice president that was in charge of flash memory or ssd's made a comment about consumers purchasing the OEM ssd's when a retail version was in development. The same vice president also casually mentioned that Samsung had ssd's in the laboratory that had already lasted the equivalent of 28 years of use. Then everything went quiet.

Last month Samsung released several business enterprise ssd's. Some web sites reported that one of the enterprise ssd's would replace the SM951. That information turned out to be incorrect so I started contacting my sources. I received confirmation from several sources that there would be a new retail model this month. However, technical information was still unavailable.

On the 4th of September I discovered a French vendor that published a web page with the Samsung 950 Pro ssd. The page was published just 6 minutes before I found it. Here is the link to that page:

http://www.pc21.fr/fiche/mz-v5p256bw-ssd-950-pro-256-go-nvme-i1404310.html

Unfortunately there were no technical specifications, no images, and no inventory available.

On the 16th of September I found a few more French vendors listing the Samsung 950 Pro. Like the first one the vendors had no ssd's in stock and there were no photos or technical specifications. However, there was one vendor that had a little more information regarding availability and shipping. Here is a link to that web page:

http://estock.fr/basketadd.php?partnumber=MZ-V5P256BW&eStockSID=36ac3c51275f0e6ea0410bb865909378

That page indicates the 950 Pro would be available in 8 to 12 days. I'm fairly certain the page was published on the 16th of September. Adding 8 to 12 days would mean availability sometime between the 24th and 28th of September.

I sent a customer inquiry to an Australian vendor who replied a shipment of the Samsung 950 Pro NVMe ssd is expected to arrive before the end of the month. In addition two different sources in the USA confirmed the 950 Pro exists and that the ssd would be available soon. There was no mention of a release date for the USA.

Two days ago I contacted a customer service representative at Newegg and asked about the Samsung 950 Pro. The representative stated that the Newegg representatives were not permitted to discuss future products. However, the rep provided a link to a newegg web page that had a form for suggesting new products. I filled out and submitted it. The first reply was simply an automatic message acknowledging receipt of the form. Next I received a message from the customer service department saying my request was forwarded to a department responsible for future products. This morning I received a third message. Here is the exact reply:

"As to your request as below, I got the feedback from our product management department: the new one should be the retail version, it is not available in US but other country for now, US will be coming soon. Once it is available, we will post it online. "

That is definitely good news despite the fact that the 950 Pro will be available in Europe and Australia before North America.

I can understand that a few consumers in the USA might be a little frustrated that the 950 Pro will probably be available in Europe and Australia before it is available in the USA. However, that should not be a problem. One could purchase the ssd from a vendor in another country. RamCity is an Austrailian vendor that sells the XP941 and SM951 OEM ssd's. The company sells the drives on their own web site, on Amazon.com, and on ebay.com. The prices are competative and the company ships world wide. Best of all, RamCity is one of only a very few vendors that were willing to honor a 3 year warranty for the Samsung OEM ssd's. I would not be surprised if RamCity had the 950 Pro before Newegg.
 

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Good news. I actually ordered the Sm951 256 from ram city through Amazon last night and should have it Thursday. I guess I have 30 days to return if the 950 is released and provides a better price/performance.
 
if you don't go with the 950 Pro, you know you'll regret passing on the speed

and for the naysayers that say there's no noticeable increase in speed, rendering videos, time to render dropped by 60-65% and i'm curious to see how much more it drops writing to and reading from a PCie M.2 SSD - right now i'm reading from a sata SSD and writing to the M.2 SSD
 
Spotted a few more European vendors taking pre-orders.

In the meantime, Pure PC in Poland published the first technical review of the Samsung 950 Pro. Here is the link:

http://www.purepc.pl/pamieci_masowe/samsung_ssd_950_pro_m2_test_superszybkiego_dysku_pcie_nvme

The review is available in English and several other languages. Just look for the small national flags at the top right of the page.

It is a long review and the results were very favorable. It should be noted that the synthetic benchmarks look good but in typical mainstream use there's not much difference between the 950 Pro and top of the line SATA 3 6Gb/s solid state drives. There were a few subjects that were not mentioned.
 


Not sure if you include video rendering as "typical mainstream use" but i've seen quite a few RKIs (reasonably knowledgable individuals) make similiar stmts, and that does not reconcile with what i've seen, like i said in video rendering. I have to believe the reduction in time was due to the considerably higher write speeds of the PCIe M.2 SSD.

There was a discussion or debate on this in another forum, and up until 2 or 3 other video hobbyists chimed in with similiar reports, i started to wonder if i was smoking some home rolled cigs when i noticed the increase in the reduction in rendering times. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2441787&page=5&highlight=
 
I spotted a few more European and Australian web sites taking pre-orders for the 950 Pro. A couple of German web sites indicated vendors are expected to start shipping the ssd on Monday, October 12th.

Ralph - I come from a rather unique motion picture film background so I tend to dismiss just about all of the inexpensive video editing applications that consumers tend to purchase.
 
More vendors taking pre-orders. European vendors are listing availability dates around the middle of this month. Austrailian vendors are listing availability dates towards the latter part of this month. ExcaliberPC in Fremont, California did not have an availability date so I sent an inquiry. Sometime yesterday the company posted an availability date of the 5th of November. It is beginning to look like consumers in the USA should plan on a Black Friday purchase.


 
Geekwad - Thanks for the MicroCenter information. That settles it. Just plan on a Black Friday purchase.

I've been waiting for a consumer version of a Samsung M.2 3.0 x 4 solid state drive with full factory warranty ever since I first read about the XP941 OEM ssd in April of 2013. Then in April of 2014 I read about both OEM versions of the SM951. Again, there was no retail version. Waiting almost two and one half years is frustrating to say the least.
 
geofelt - The Samsung 950 Pro has an updated UBX controller, updated firmware, a Samsung NVMe driver, a new version of Samsung Magician, AES encryption, thermal protection, and of course 3D V-Nand flash memory.

Ralph - I've been over here in the ssd section of the forum since 2008. The entire time I have always stated that a fresh clean install is the preferred method of installing Microsoft Windows. Cloning applications work reasonably well; however, glitches can develop. If you take a look at the ssd section of this forum you can't help but notice that there are entirely too many threads about problems with cloning. The other problem is that over a period of time Microsoft Windows turns into a bloated pig. By that I mean Windows does not properly uninstall applications. There are too many incorrect, useless, unneeded, and redundant registry entries & data files. Do you really want to clone that to a brand new ssd?
 


Samsung ssd migration has never failed me.
Actually, it is a free private version of CLONIX, I believe.
It is not a true bit for bit clone, but a migration which can selectively not migrate large files if need be so as to fit on a smaller ssd than the original hard drive.





 


If i run into the same headaches i did when i installed my xp941, hell yes

and actually, thinking about it and the fact that i've already got win 7 x64 installed and running on my xp941, i'm not sure what purpose would be served by a fresh install, plus as geofelt mentions below, having done a fresh install twice in the past 9 months and the fact that it takes me 11-12 hours for a complete installation. Just the windows updates take a couple of hours (guesstimate) to download and install, versus 20-30 minutes cloning from M.2 socket to expansion card mounted 950 Pro

I'm not computer literate enough to know for sure, but the only "hiccup" might possibly be cloning the xp941 which is AHCI protocol to NVMe protocol, but hopefully it can be "repaired" with the windows dvd if i experience any corrupted or missing boot files. If not, then there's no choice but do a fresh install
 
A new build, I agree is technically the best solution.
But, consider the pain of reinstalling a large number of apps and games, then it gives one pause.

Perhaps a related question.
Does an upgrade from windows 7 to windows 10 give you a cleaner install?