Good MoBo temps? Possible reason for black screen/sound loop/no input monitor?

cesarsainz94 · Sep 20, 2015

Hi everyone, I was wondering what are some ideal temps for a motherboard to be at. Right now during summer my MoBo is around 42 or 127 degrees under full load. Not sure if thats hot and the reason why I may be getting black screens/sound loops/no input causing me to force shut down. This only occurs while gaming, I checked my volts on my PSU and they check out fine and have reinstalled/installed my video drivers from the EVGA disc multiple times. Any help/suggestions?

Temps under full load while gaming:
Cpu-40-47's
PSU-28-34
HDD- 30-38
GPU-40-55

(Using HWMonitor)

Specs are:
Mobo: AsRock H97m Pro4
Ram: 2x4 Hyper X Fury 1600 MhZ
PSU: Corsair 550w CSM Series ATX12V v2.4 and EPS 2.92
HDD: 1 tb WD 10 EZEX
Heatsink: Hyper 212 Evo
GPU: EVGA Nvidia 750 ti 2gb
CPU: Intel i5-4460
Windows 8.1

terry4536 · Sep 20, 2015

The first test that I would suggest is to reseat the RAM. Clean the contacts of each stick and blow out the slot. Often that is all it takes. The CPU temperature should be at 28 - 35 C with a good cooler at idle. The CPU should be under 75 -85 C during a load. If it is much more than that it is going to start throttling the CPU.

Here are two check lists on this topic.

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1893016/post-system-boot-video-output-troubleshooting-checklist.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2041564/troubleshoot-boot-display-issue.html

terry4536 · Sep 20, 2015

If your motherboard has integrated graphics, try that output for the monitor.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 20, 2015

terry4536 :

I don't believe I have ever reached that high on my CPU. I recently went to the BIOS and cranked my Fan speeds up to 100% cause I figured better safe then sorry.

And I don't use integretated graphics, I have my HDMI plugged into my Nvidia 750ti 2gb. But could the intagrated graphics still be causing me issues nonetheless?

Or something to test my RAM? Cause I ran the windows RAM test and it showed no sign of a defected product. But some people will argue the windows version lacks the proper tools to check it.

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

You can test the graphics by using the integrated graphics port on the motherboard (if it has them). Remove the graphics card and plug the monitor into the motherboard graphics port. This bypasses the graphics card.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 21, 2015

terry4536 :

My system is able to boot up and everything just fine. This is simply an issue of the one I stated above while gaming :/ I don't think it's a faulty GPU as I used this one on my previous build about 4 months ago on a standard Dell I got from Best Buy. And not once experienced this issue.

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

Possibilities for no video out include memory problems, cable problems, inadequate power supply, monitor problems, and graphics card problems. All of these could be a possibility (with the possible exception of memory) and have the computer boot up.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 21, 2015

terry4536 :

The No Video out only happened recently. But while that happens my tower stays on, sound loops and well yeah. My volts on my PSU are

+12v - 11.986
+3.3v - 3.344
+5v - 5.112.

Memory/cables?

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

Do you have any other cable s that you can try for the monitor? Maybe use a HDMI cable to the monitor or a TV.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 21, 2015

terry4536 :

You believe the HDMI cable can be crashing my rig?

After I changed my fan speeds to 100% I haven't crashed once today. Think the problem was simple overheating or no?

I'm up for trying things just to be certain man.

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

No, but the monitor cable can cause problems with the video output , which is what you asked about in the original post.

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

After I changed my fan speeds to 100% I haven't crashed once today. Think the problem was simple overheating or no?

Unless you received error messages regarding the fans or temps, I doubt that is the cause of your
problem.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 21, 2015

terry4536 :

But isn't it odd that after cranking up my Fan Speeds I haven't Black screened and crashed?

What could possibly be the cuplrit of that, I mean my volts on my PSU looked okay right?

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

Concerning the power supply, it is important that the 3.3V, 5V , and 12V to be within margins. But the actual power output in watts is more relevant here. The power output decreases over time. If the power output drops bellow the minimum necessary to operate the graphics card, it will shut down. But since the graphics card is generally the biggest power draw in the system, it is quite possible that the rest of the system is powered up and the graphics card to be under powered. That would be my best guess. Plus the Corsair CSX Series of power supplies are notorious for being problematic.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 21, 2015

terry4536 :

So what more info would you need from my PSU actually? Did what I send you catch your eye as odd?

This is very odd considering my old Dell I had a few months ago had a psu of 300w and was able to run my 750ti 2g. I mean that's all the 750ti needs is, simply 300w. So I may possibly need to buy a new PSU?

cesarsainz94 · Sep 21, 2015

terry4536 :

I also have the CSM series, not sure if that makes any difference from the CSX series but I have seen many issues with the CSX.

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

It is difficult to test a power supply's power output. You have to put a load on the power supply and then measure the watts inline or by induction. The easiest way is to swap out the PSU with one known to be working. Another option is to take it to a PC repair shop and have them test it. Or purchase a new one.

The CSM is just the modular version of the Corsair CSX power supply.

terry4536 · Sep 21, 2015

In response to your private message, Here are several power supplies to choose from. Since you have a 550 watt modular PSU already, I will suggest those in the 550 -650 watt range.

At $70 550 wattt
XFX XTR Series P1-550B-BEFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC With Full Modular Cables
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207032

$85 650watt
EVGA 120-G1-0650-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 650 W 10 yr Warranty Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire Support Continuous Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G2HM7105

$95
EVGA SuperNOVA GS 220-GS-0650-V1 80 PLUS GOLD 650 W 5 yr Warranty ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire Support Super Silent Continuous Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438048

$109 650 watt
SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3)) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
Hardware Secrets Golden Award - Flawless

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

Personally I would get one of the last two.

cesarsainz94 · Sep 24, 2015

terry4536 :

Thanks man

I know this is a bit late but I went with the EVGA. It's odd cause I'm yet to black screen despite not installing my new PSU yet, before it would happen randomely like 30 minutes into H1Z1 or maybe 2 hours into CSGO, but after cranking my fans up it's either stopped or I've been lucky. Still going to install this PSU though cause I feel like you're right though. But why haven't I black screened again?

cesarsainz94 · Sep 24, 2015

terry4536 :

In response to your private message, Here are several power supplies to choose from. Since you have a 550 watt modular PSU already, I will suggest those in the 550 -650 watt range.

At $70 550 wattt
XFX XTR Series P1-550B-BEFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC With Full Modular Cables
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207032

$85 650watt
EVGA 120-G1-0650-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 650 W 10 yr Warranty Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire Support Continuous Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G2HM7105

$95
EVGA SuperNOVA GS 220-GS-0650-V1 80 PLUS GOLD 650 W 5 yr Warranty ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire Support Super Silent Continuous Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438048

$109 650 watt
SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3)) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
Hardware Secrets Golden Award - Flawless

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

Personally I would get one of the last two.

Guess I just jinxed myself

It black screened just now while playing H1Z1, my cpu temps were under 50, and my gpu was under 60. So it can't be those. Guess it is the PSU right?

terry4536 · Sep 24, 2015

I don't know if it is the case or not but the old power supply could be getting hot. And the additional air flow may be helping in that manner. A simple test would to turn the fans back to their original level. Let it equilibrate for 30 minutes or so. Then shut it down and unplug it. Then remove the side and place your hand on the power supply. Is it hot? It shouldn't be.

Or you may be right and it was just luck. But a quality power supply is going to have a stabilizing effect on the system.

terry4536 · Sep 24, 2015

The temperatures you just listed would not cause the system to black screen in of themselves. My best guess is the power supply. In the event that the problem persists after the installation of the new power supply, I would look into the memory. Have you tried running memtest?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAAahUKEwjsvInRhpHIAhXLCZIKHdjZB8Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.memtest86.com%2F&usg=AFQjCNEVUVJm9MHQ5BdTA2cY6MhbqX4TMA

cesarsainz94 · Sep 25, 2015

terry4536 :

No I haven't, how exactly does that work in the case that I have to try that out?

cesarsainz94 · Sep 25, 2015

terry4536 :

Would underclocking my gpu a bit solve this?

terry4536 · Sep 25, 2015

It is a possibility, but your listed temps didn't show that the graphics card was over stressed. I would wait until the new psu is installed. When is it supposed to be delivered? Which model did you order?

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