Should I add more RAM if I regularly hit 80-90% utilization?

lycanet

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Pretty straight forward. I have a desktop that gets used with some frequency and I normally use about 70-90% out of 4GB. I have only seen the usage close to 30-40% once and that was the other day after I ran Advanced System Care and toggled some settings. I haven't seen the usage that low since, but I wasn't using any programs at that time either. Without running any programs the memory usage is about 50-60%, but there are many processes running.

From what I understand, RAM is RAM and there does not need to be spare capacity in order to function optimally. So, if I'm not hitting 90-100% more RAM might just be a waste and I should just go with an SSD. On the other hand, I've read that Win is able to use RAM if you make it available - when it is already using a significant amount of currently installed RAM. At the same time I have read many people on this very forum say that over 4 GB isn't needed and is just a waste of RAM; I'm not sure that advice applies to my situation though because I am using what I have, so maybe more is better?

Currently, I'm using 82% [ 3.2/3.9GB in use, 754MB avail, 634MB standby, 124MB free], and that is with several of my regularly used programs open. (iTunes, MediaMonkey, Photoshop, File Explorer, Firefox - 13 tabs) I've seen it jump to 91% or so when I open up more demanding apps, but I typically run those on my laptop. However, for some reason running Google Music manager and iTunes at the same time will bring everything to a halt on occasion.

The main problem I have been having is that sometimes my system will take moments to respond and I want it to be more responsive. For example, moving the mouse is not smooth, but is instead choppy. Other times I will get a "working" symbol from the mouse when switching between apps and that will take several moments (sometimes minutes) to resolve itself. Or, clicking on the start menu will take several seconds for it to load up. I would, obviously, like my system to be more responsive, but I think I have pushed myself into analysis paralysis and am now not sure what the best upgrade would be in order to alleviate the issues that are frustrating me.

Thoughts?

Win 10 Pro x64
CPU (i5 2400) usage is rarely above 20-30%.
HDD (7200rpm) is commonly processing read or write requests at or near 100%, but not constantly and not near as often as the memory usage is high - high disk utilization usually only happens a few times a day or so it seems.

4.0 GB DDR3

Speed: 1333 MHz
Slots used: 2 of 2
Form factor: DIMM
Hardware reserved: 87.4 MB

Available 749 MB
Cached 610 MB
Committed 4.4/7.9 GB
Paged pool 298 MB
Non-paged pool 155 MB
In use 3.2 GB



 

Vic 40

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When the pc uses that much ram at boot make sure to run a check for malware.Do check with Malwarebytes Antimalware and if it's possible a bootscan with your antivirus software,but scan with it anyway.
If nothing found clear the boot folder from unwanted programs.
 

Barty1884

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4GB is pretty low these days, so I'd definitely be looking to add to that - as Nuckles_56 suggested, 2x4GB.

I'm assuming your board is compatible with higher than 2x2GB (but that's an older configuration setup generally, it's probably worth checking).
 

lycanet

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@Nuckles, Thanks. That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure since even my current load wasn't grabbing 100% yet.

@ Vic, I'm not sure how much RAM is used at boot/startup, but the startup folder contains desktop configuration settings and a File association Helper shortcut. [C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup]

I have 15 processes enabled at startup, but most seem to belong to AVG, Windows, Apple, Intel, and various drivers. I have run Malwarebytes, Antivirus software, and ESET, but nothing turns up. When I am using my computer there are around 100 processes running, but the top resource hogs are AVG, System, various System Host, and whatever apps I am running at the time, so nothing obvious. At the same time, when I count process memory usage by MB, it doesn't usually add up to more than 2GB.

# Barty, Yes, my board can hold 2x4GB - max. I'm only looking at RAM and SSD because the cost of an (compatible) upgraded processor (i7 3770 -$400) is almost more than getting a better MoBo (Asus z97-a - $145) and better processor (i7 4790K - $330). Plus, my current CPU seems to handle my demands.
 

Vic 40

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Yeah abit of a math error on my part,50/60% is 2gbg or just abit more.Most systems at start up run about ~1.5gb could be more could be less depending on what starts.Still think that 2gb or over is alot,but maybe that AVG uses much.
You're start up folder is quite big as well so that accounts for much as well.If the anti malware tools don't find anything are you probably fine in that aspect.