New Vid Card w/ specific specs

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

Hi... I am looking to build a new PC in the near future... I want to go with the MSI 970 Mobo. It is restricted to PCI-E 2.0

I would like a Video Card with 4GB of Vid RAM and if not impossible GDDR5. This might be asking too much but if the Mobo is the limitation on this then is there another AM3+ Mobo w/ PCI-E 3.0 that I can use? I have looked and could not find the right combinations of parts.

I am only running 3 games on my current PC, 1. DBZ Xenoverse, 2. Diablo 3, 3. Marvel Heroes
I want to be able to run these games on high settings to get the fullest out of them on my new PC.

Any and all help would be great. Thanks

RobCrezz · Sep 24, 2015

You can use any PCI-E 3.0 card - they are backwards compatible with PCI-E 2.0.

What is your budget? we can suggest the best card for the money.

Robert Cook · Sep 24, 2015

Cheapest and best performing 4GB card out there is the R9 290. Do you really need 4GB for those games? it seems a R9 280X would do well.

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

Looking to spend less than $650 on the whole PC. I'm trying to put one together now with virtual part picker.

Cioby · Sep 24, 2015

Don't get a motherboard without at least 1 PCI-E 3.0 if you want to keep up with video games.

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

I did not know that I can use a 3.0 in a 2.0 board. Will it take away anything if I do?

Robert Cook · Sep 24, 2015

^ what? that is not true at all. there are not many cards out there that take any hit running in PCIE 2.0 perhaps the titan X and the 980ti, but that would be all.

Robert Cook · Sep 24, 2015

PCMDDOCTORS :

As mentioned above, the lower bandwidth could be a slight issue with $650+ cards, but those are out of budget so no issues.

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

Robert Cook :

This is what I am thinking about but it's a little pricey for me: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f47FD3

RobCrezz · Sep 24, 2015

PCMDDOCTORS :

I would really recommend going for an intel based build if you can be convinced.

Removed the AMD cpu and board, and the GT 730 (the GT 730 sucks) and replaced with better parts, Excluding the change of video card the price is exactly the same.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($188.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Core X9 ATX Desktop Case ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $852.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-24 09:46 EDT-0400

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

RobCrezz :

This one is also one I am considering... PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ng9YD3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ng9YD3/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII S 69.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Thermal Compound: Masscool G751 Shin-Etsu 0.5g Thermal Paste ($3.91 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($57.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Core X9 ATX Desktop Case ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Other: NVIDIA Geforce GT730 4GB ($144.93)
Total: $643.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-24 09:51 EDT-0400

RobCrezz · Sep 24, 2015

This would be a more budget friendly build (based on your first build)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($149.80 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Core X9 ATX Desktop Case ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $769.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-24 09:51 EDT-0400

RobCrezz · Sep 24, 2015

PCMDDOCTORS :

RobCrezz :

PCMDDOCTORS :

I would really recommend going for an intel based build if you can be convinced.

Altered it (removed the AMD cpu and board, and the GT 730 and replaced with better parts), Excluding the change of video card the price is exactly the same.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($188.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Core X9 ATX Desktop Case ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $852.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-24 09:46 EDT-0400

This one is also one I am considering... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ng9YD3

They dont even make the Phenom II any more man...

Is there any reason you need 16gb of ram? The gt730, although having 4gb of vram is total crap, higher end 2gb cards are much better.

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

RobCrezz :

PCMDDOCTORS :

They dont even make the Phenom II any more man...

Is there any reason you need 16gb of ram? The gt730, although having 4gb of vram is total crap, higher end 2gb cards are much better.

I know the Phenom II is out dated but it can perform just as well as the new FX series and I'm not an Intel person. I'm not bashing Intel just like AMD better. As far as the Vid card goes as long as I can run my games in full 1080p then I'll go with anything.

Robert Cook · Sep 24, 2015

GET THAT PHENOM! phenoms are great, and that chip OCs very well. get it to 4.2 GHz or so, and it is a beast.

RobCrezz · Sep 24, 2015

Yeah but you will struggle to actually buy it from somewhere? And the FX stuff is outdated too, honestly im not an "intel Fan" ive had CPUs from both over the years, you are better off with an I5.

Dont buy a graphics card just based on its vram.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($149.80 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Core X9 ATX Desktop Case ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $769.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-24 09:51 EDT-0400

Robert Cook · Sep 24, 2015

it is called ebay. that chip is around $135 or so. I agree, that graphics card is not that great.

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

Robert Cook :

This is it.... I think I have made up my mind. It's in my budget and as long as the vid card fits in this case I'm golden.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q8DVvK
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/q8DVvK/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII S 69.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Thermal Compound: Masscool G751 Shin-Etsu 0.5g Thermal Paste ($3.91 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970M PRO3 Micro ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($57.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Core X9 ATX Desktop Case ($145.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $573.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-24 10:05 EDT-0400

Robert Cook · Sep 24, 2015

looks good, but can you squeeze a R7 260X? it is around $85-90, and will perform much better. that card should fit just fine.

RobCrezz · Sep 24, 2015

Robert Cook :

Seriously? your recommending the guy does a new build with a Phenom?

Ok you guys are nuts, ill leave you to it :lol:

PCMDDOCTORS · Sep 24, 2015

Thanks for all the help everyone... I got some really good ideas. I think I can say this case is closed.

4745454b · Sep 26, 2015

A $100+ GT730? Serious? I'll close this as soon as you pick a best answer. That CPU is a total rip off for that price. Crazy.

Edit: That GPU rather is a total rip off for that price. Much to slow for what it's being charged for.

Robert Cook · Sep 28, 2015

^ the latest build was a GTX 750 I think for around $75

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