Pc on a budget of around 800 pounds

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

So i'm building a gaming pc. Thats the parts i have picked so far:

Amd a10 7850k black edition cpu.

Thermaltake spinq vt cpu cooler

2x8gb hyper x savage ddr3 2133mhz ram

Asus a88x gamer motherboard

Msi radeon r9 380 4gb

Nzxt source 530 case

Kingston hyper x 120 gb ssd

As you can see some things are missing. Can you suggest a PSU? Keep in mind that later i will upgrade to second r9 380 and maybe 16 gb more rams. And i'm not sure if this cpu cooler suports fm2 socket?

ScrewySqrl · Sep 28, 2015

you can do much more powerful for 800 pounds!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£196.12 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£93.34 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£32.34 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Sandisk X110 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card (£321.86 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£37.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £776.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-28 12:20 BST+0100

RCFProd · Sep 28, 2015

Choice of components are very poor. How did you pick those components? You have any experience with building gaming PC's?

8GB is all you need for gaming let alone 16GB. Would be a big waste of 800 pounds.

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

Well its gona be used for gaming mostly but photoshop or gimp aswell as blender and so on will be used aswell. So idlike to have 16gb

ScrewySqrl · Sep 28, 2015

no proble. my build can jump to 16 GB and still be under 800 pounds

plywrlw · Sep 28, 2015

Get rid of the A10 for starters, with a dedicated GPU you should get an i5 or Xeon. Here's a much better value build...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£196.12 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£68.66 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£67.96 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.74 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.81 @ More Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (£249.54 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£40.60 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£57.35 @ Aria PC)
Total: £804.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-28 12:50 BST+0100

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

Screwy you forgot to mention case cpu cooler and psu with enought power for two graphic card so its way over 800 pounds

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

What other amd cpus would you suggest?

RCFProd · Sep 28, 2015

Irmantas_1 :

The thing is, the CPU is very bad as It's an X4 860K with good onboard graphics you don't need.

Forget about all of these components and build one with a good Intel CPU.

Fully black/white 800 GBP set with i5-4690k + R9 390 with a good CPU cooler and 250GB SSD. Plus a very very high quality power supply.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.98 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£25.00)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£85.82 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury White 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£32.34 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£68.34 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card (£247.24 @ Dabs)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£53.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£71.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £799.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-28 13:04 BST+0100

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

Other thing why i should buy expensive intel for some better numbers if everything is limited by data transfer speeds or so called bottle cap effect?

RCFProd · Sep 28, 2015

Irmantas_1 :

WHAT.

Haha if I understand it correctly did you just say what I think you said? You don't really understand computers and It's performance at all do you?

plywrlw · Sep 28, 2015

For the work and gaming you want to do, the Xeon will absolutely stomp all over any AMD chip.

It runs cooler, it is more efficient, it does more work per second, it has a newer chipset so the motherboard has newer features.

The real question is why would you buy an inferior product when you can spend your budget on components that will give you better performance out of the box and will last longer before you need to upgrade them?

The Xeon is perfect for multi-threaded tasks like Photoshop/GIMP and video editing plus it has better ipc (instructions per clock = how much "work" it does in a set time) than say, an FX 8350. Because it runs so cool I guarantee that you will not HAVE to use an aftermarket CPU cooler, though you can if you want.

The PSU in my build is great quality and the graphics card is great for 1080 and 1440p gaming.

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

So pls somebody can tell me why intel cpu is best and amd total crap the only thing i see better is that creepy price. its intel lovers forum or pc builders? Pls tell the true to me noob cuz i definetly dont know shit about computers.

plywrlw · Sep 28, 2015

Here's some comparison between the FX 8350 (basically AMD's top CPU) and older Intel CPU's.

Bear in mind that this is for the Ivy Bridge Intel CPU's such as the i7 3770 and we are now two generations on from that. The CPU's we are recommending are all either Haswell or Haswell Refresh. These are the CPU's that came after Ivy Bridge.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

You dont get me guys why i should spend 25% of my budget on dome fancy cpu and save from other parts if i wont probably even feel the diference i have used amd all my live and cant say nothing bad about it

plywrlw · Sep 28, 2015

You will feel a difference. That's the point. PC building is about balance. You want to game but also edit so the ideal situation is many powerful threads.

FX 8350 = 8 weaker threads

i5 = 4 strong threads

i7/Xeon = 8 strong threads

Get the FX 8350 if you want but it's not like you'll be able to get a GTX 980 with the saving of £30

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£132.37 @ More Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 103 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler (£18.66 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard (£78.38 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£69.41 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.74 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.81 @ More Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (£249.54 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£40.60 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£57.35 @ Aria PC)
Total: £770.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-28 15:22 BST+0100

RCFProd · Sep 28, 2015

Irmantas_1 :

For the normal user they will notice a difference, ofcourse there is a visible difference. If you don't notice stuttering etc. then an X4 860k or maybe FX-6300 might actually be a brilliant idea lol.

You play at 60 fps or that doesn't matter?

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2015

AMD chips need to be overclocked to compare to an Intel's performance. That costs more money, negating any savings you earned, by going with AMD. FX 8350 is over 3yrs old now. AMD has scrapped what it started, with bulldozer, and is starting over, with a totally new architecture, with Zen, because the current arch just did not live up to expectations. I also own an FX 8320 @ 4.0ghz, and an i5 2400 @ 3.5ghz. The FX is flat out slower, when using the same GPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£196.12 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-P ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£67.91 @ More Computers)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£74.00 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card (£249.54 @ Aria PC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25 ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.63 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£57.35 @ Aria PC)
Total: £792.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-28 15:45 BST+0100

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

Well i havnt heard anything good about fx cpus thats why i have considered to get a10

plywrlw · Sep 28, 2015

The a10 is basically an x4 860k it is comparable to an Intel Pentium

This is much lower performance than the fx CPU's.

I'm curious, why do you think we would try and trick you into a cpu that's no good or a waste of money?
We are all just trying to help, you came here for "expert" advice but now won't take it

logainofhades · Sep 28, 2015

Irmantas_1 :

The 7850k is Steamroller based, which is just an evolution from Piledriver, which was an evolution from Bulldozer. The 7850k is better than the original FX chips, but not much of an improvement, over current FX. Their lack of L3 cache hurts performance, much like it did with the older Athlon II vs Phenom II. AMD, right now, is just not a good choice, for a gaming rig. I hope that changes with Zen. I want to see AMD doing well again, as the competition benefits us all.

ScrewySqrl · Sep 28, 2015

Irmantas_1 :

Well, doesn't need a cooler, the Xeon comes with a basic cooler than is all it needs, since it doesn't overclock

Irmantas_1 · Sep 28, 2015

Guys i dont think you gona trick me just at the begining i have red to much dont buy this but buy this without tellin me why. Sorry for being dick.

Mattz982 · Sep 28, 2015

Irmantas_1 :

Look, youre obviously new, please don't buy any of this stuff as you'd be wasting your money. Do more research into computers first and then you'll understand things way more.
Lets start with the basics. Intel > AMD
When gaming, you use a single thread and therefore as Intel has the much better single core performance you buy Intel. Yes it's more expensive but it's SO MUCH BETTER!!!

You're also looking at a r9 390, whilst it's a good card it is very power hungry and two of them will eat up around 500W +, I would recommend nvidia with Intel any day, any situation.

I seriously suggest buying a pre built/ boutique PC as you are really uneducated, not to be rude but I've read the thread and it's more than apparent. Try hazardouspcs.com for the UK

If you still want to build it yourself spend more time doing research and learn about what you're buying!!

RCFProd · Sep 28, 2015

A funny fact is that AMD is more for enthusiast builds, they can be good but they're likely to cost more. I was thinking of building one. AMD is not for budget, because you have to deal with thermal throttling and all that. Motherboard and heatsink has to be good with an FX CPU.

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